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  1. #7711
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    Zaytex Zanshin
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    I guess I'm a casual because I don't play savage. I mostly play roulettes and try out new jobs, but I still want normal content to be more engaging, especially for healer.
    I dunno, I consider myself midcore. I would be interested in savage if it wasn't just studying to take a test. You study the guides, then execute the aoes perfectly or fail.
    Ironically healer is at its most engaging when you're blind progging a fight with a full 8-man who are doing the same. By reading the guides and mitigation plans you are robbing yourself of the peak healer experience this game has to offer.

    But yeah, unengaging role otherwise.
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  2. #7712
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    I guess I'm a casual because I don't play savage. I mostly play roulettes and try out new jobs, but I still want normal content to be more engaging, especially for healer.
    I dunno, I consider myself midcore. I would be interested in savage if it wasn't just studying to take a test. You study the guides, then execute the aoes perfectly or fail.
    This is what everything should be engaging in, most people do normal content. Normal content like leveling and such should require healing for healers.
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  3. #7713
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    The best way to make regular content engaging without unduly stressing out less experienced players still is to distribute engagement between the job that content is experienced through and the content that's being experienced.

    If they make all the engagement come from jobs, we'd probably end up with very busy jobs and some people wouldn't keep up. If they make all engagement come from the fights, we get the problem that casual MSQ content absolutely cannot be hard past a certain amount, so it just ends with people being segregated into content that suits them.

    A healthy mix of engagement between the job we play as and the content we interact with would be the best mixture that we could get.

    The faster the dev team realises this, the better.
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  4. #7714
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    Rydia_Misuto's Avatar
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    Rydia Misuto
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I'm done with pressing 1 seven times between dot casts. I mained Scholar in ARR and Astro in HW and SB, and I haven't felt like there has been a healer class with meaningful mechanics or any kind of diversity at all since Shadowbringers' launch.

    I can use the exact same hotbar layout for all four healer jobs, with the only 'variation' coming because sage merges some buttons into a 'toggle' action. They still do the same thing, in the same way, at pretty much the same timings.

    If we have to have a basic healing job that presses 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 and has a bunch of different healbombs and can be played half-asleep while on the phone watching netflix and cooking breakfast, then fine, but why is EVERY SINGLE HEALER that simple? The entire role is a sham, and has been for five years straight.

    Saying #FFXIVHealerStrike is just me carrying on with what I've been doing since halfway through Shadowbringers, when it became incredibly apparent the goal was to make healing impossible to fail at, require no attention and have no variety or depth at all.
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  5. #7715
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia_Misuto View Post
    I'm done with pressing 1 seven times between dot casts. I mained Scholar in ARR and Astro in HW and SB, and I haven't felt like there has been a healer class with meaningful mechanics or any kind of diversity at all since Shadowbringers' launch.
    Preach

    But also just so people understand how truly dire the situation is, I gotta correct you, it's 'press 1 ELEVEN times between DOT casts'.
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; 07-27-2024 at 04:38 PM.

  6. #7716
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Preach

    But also just so people understand how truly dire the situation is, I gotta correct you, it's 'press 1 ELEVEN times between DOT casts'.
    1 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 - :snore:
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  7. #7717
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    This is what everything should be engaging in, most people do normal content. Normal content like leveling and such should require healing for healers.
    unfortunately, our resident accessibility "expert" who always speaks for the "majority" would be against this. it would cause stress and gatekeeping if his dead grandmother couldnt body roll her corpse to level cap. doesnt help that CBU3 doesnt teach any skills past the Novice experience which ends at level 15 if I recall correctly and doesnt even teach about job stones.

    they need to seriously learn that there is a difference between accessibility for disabled people.. and the dead. the dead dont pay for a sub and, if they arent playing now... they wont in the future either.
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  8. #7718
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    1 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 - :snore:
    You have to weave in Youtube videos between the 1s
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  9. #7719
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    unfortunately, our resident accessibility "expert" who always speaks for the "majority" would be against this. it would cause stress and gatekeeping if his dead grandmother couldnt body roll her corpse to level cap. doesnt help that CBU3 doesnt teach any skills past the Novice experience which ends at level 15 if I recall correctly and doesnt even teach about job stones.

    they need to seriously learn that there is a difference between accessibility for disabled people.. and the dead. the dead dont pay for a sub and, if they arent playing now... they wont in the future either.
    I been playing healer on WoW and other games as a one armed player, I can keep people alive just fine healing, I heal 90% of the time and dps the other 10%, and that is because damage is consistent and constant from mobs. No barrier there. So what is that child's excuse.
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  10. #7720
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    I been playing healer on WoW and other games as a one armed player, I can keep people alive just fine healing, I heal 90% of the time and dps the other 10%, and that is because damage is consistent and constant from mobs. No barrier there. So what is that child's excuse.
    thats AWESOME! you use a controller or special keyboard setup?

    pretty sure they are just a bad healer/player. have to wonder how they get out of bed in the morning....
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