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  1. #7021
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Isn't that what 'If you want challenging gameplay as healer, give ultimate a try!' was? Or how about 'please give healers a try' (in response to Abyssos causing a shortage)? Or what about the one that went something like 'Our data showed SCH was forcing WHM to do all the healing' (the charts from the time showed the two to be equal on HPS, and with the 'Mitigation = HPS' change to FFlogs, SCH would dominate in said charts)

    YoshiP's had plenty of 'moments', I'd say
    And yet, this thread exists. People clearly don't know how to read between the lines. They want Healers to remain as is and not have to devote by default more resources towards dps options. People just have a really hard time accepting something that hasn't and likely won't change for years to come. At this point, whoever still plays healer, liked it for what it is. If you don't like it, play a caster instead. It's not that hard to accept the devs stance at this point.
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  2. #7022
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Some of us already thriving on non-healers. Doesn't stop us from sending in feedback how garbage the role though, since that's what they told us to do even in-game on support ticket window lol.
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  3. #7023
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Some of us already thriving on non-healers. Doesn't stop us from sending in feedback how garbage the role though, since that's what they told us to do even in-game on support ticket window lol.
    And as non-healer mains now, we actually have more say in how healers should be designed. Because SE loves listening to people who don't play the jobs.
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  4. #7024
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    BigCheez's Avatar
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    I think giving everyone "Aid" action that doesn't neccesarilly even need bind, just click on "dead" body next to them to help them for 10s and it brings them back at 1% hp and mp.

    Resurrection and adjacents would still be bit better since they can be casted from range and return with bit more hp/mp (which can be tweaked).

    Takes of the pressure of scraping party back up from Healers and gives wider options to develope battle content.

    Then again if it doesn't get interrupted, Tanks will pick people up while face tanking everything. Might not be too bad for casual content but probably needs adjustment.
    Healers won't spend 1 GCD on a heal and you think people are gonna spend 10 seconds helping someone up, lmao.
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  5. #7025
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    And yet, this thread exists. People clearly don't know how to read between the lines. They want Healers to remain as is and not have to devote by default more resources towards dps options. People just have a really hard time accepting something that hasn't and likely won't change for years to come. At this point, whoever still plays healer, liked it for what it is. If you don't like it, play a caster instead. It's not that hard to accept the devs stance at this point.
    Oh look, another oracle who can apparently predict the future and also read the devs' minds. This "reading between the lines" is completely made up because they have never made any "stance" clear. Hell, they have recently openly admitted that they went too far with job simplification. Unless they come out and say something, all we have is speculation, so please stop treating said speculation as fact just because it fits with your opinion.

    That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...
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  6. #7026
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    TheDustyOne's Avatar
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    Dusty Two
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...
    Didn't they also at one point say that Paladins would never block magic attacks? Only to change that not long into Stormbloods release? Female Viera and Male Hrothgar were supposed to be the last races because both were wanted by the devs and playerbase, but they only had resources for 1 race, so they settled on 2 half-baked races, they clearly changed their mind to release the opposite sexes over the expansions. Every rework made is the devs changing their minds, every QoL change they once said was impossible is the devs changing their minds, it's fully possible for Square to change their minds on healer designs, they just need to have an open mind and some creativity to act on it.
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  7. #7027
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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Healers won't spend 1 GCD on a heal and you think people are gonna spend 10 seconds helping someone up, lmao.
    In casual content yes.
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  8. #7028
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    I would like game functionality to stop being limited by what people theoretically will or won't do.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  9. #7029
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    I would like game functionality to stop being limited by what people theoretically will or won't do.
    This.

    Stop balancing for the absolute bottom of player capability, stop removing buttons that people are too lazy to press, stop removing things that people are too lazy to engage in.
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  10. #7030
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    Wildheaven182's Avatar
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Im sorry for all the disabled players i see posting around, but no video game can survive catering to a small minority when it is at the expense of a majority.
    You should expect that you will not be able to enjoy most of the game's content. That's just how it is and no one can fix it.

    Im glad that you can and have enjoyed the game to the extent that you can. Later content will naturally be harder, and not exactly more of the same striking dummy difficulty.
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