#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Erakir]

From my experience, Living Dead was practically never used in a duty with only 1 healer, due to the lack of the difficulty to bring drk to even activate it.
So the content a DRK usually did use it always had 2 healers whom both could heal the DRK to full.
Imo it wasn't a sole healers duty to top the DRK up, but a shared one.

Simply saying is as from my understanding, your comment was done from a single healer scenario, not a duo.

You are correct, in 8 man parties it wasn't really an issue, and thus DRKs didn't really see lack of use due to lack of invuln in raids.

However, prior to SHB, it was fairly easy for any healer to solo top a DRK off. This changed. People were still somewhat hesitant because... Random healers and not knowing how LD works to begin with.

But it was much, much, much easier to do as a solo healer than it suddenly became. Something no other tanks really had to worry about in comparison.

If LD had become 50-60% max hp needed in SHB, there's a solid chance it never would had gotten healing attached, as we'd still be in the /shrug just gotta pump some heals mindset.

[Kayokane]

I'll keep posting 'strawmen' arguements as I think of them, it helps give a spring board for the deeper issues hidden under the straw.

[Post]

Dude, I miss HW DRK a ton. I remember going from dying in the over world doing Amal'ja dailies at 50 with a full set of Dreadwyrm/Ironworks BiS fending to being nigh invincible in dungeons like the Vault and The Arboretum as DRK just from learning how to play it and mitigate properly.

I don't consider myself a slouch or anything, but the room to improve on DRK was the greatest that any tank by that point of the game had BY FAR and it felt really rewarding to get better at it.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

Hey, I never said I wasn't in favor of that. I'm all in favor of making healer more interesting. I'm not in favor of this mentality coming up that tanks are evil and need to be gutted. I'm more than happy to support healers being made more interesting without having to gut anybody else.

How do you make a role interesting when their role in the party is already being covered by a completely different role?

Drastically overhaul the way battles are designed to introduce more frequent healing or tone down tank sustain, I'd be happy with either personally but one sounds much more realistic. I'm saying this as both a healer and a former tank main, tank sustain is wildly inconsistent with the pace of damage and one must give.

[Kazmarek]

How do you make a role interesting when their role in the party is already being covered by a completely different role?

Drastically overhaul the way battles are designed to introduce more frequent healing or tone down tank sustain, I'd be happy with either personally but one sounds much more realistic. I'm saying this as both a healer and a former tank main, tank sustain is wildly inconsistent with the pace of damage and one must give.

I dunno, that's not on me to figure out. I don't have a problem with the current state of things.

[Kayokane]

Another issue with tank invulns (not directly DRKs LD, but it was affected by this) remember the animation delay that Hallowed and Super had, I'm pretty sure they fixed Super's pretty quickly, but I hear Hallowed is still on CD to this day. Benediction also has that, so sometimes the DRK would die while Bene's effect was playing around them.

[Rolder50]

Maybe, just maybe, more max level healers would have some clue what to do, if the game actually expected them to know what to do an earlier stage. The leveling process should be teaching you how to play your job, but as it is, a healer can get to max level with a single button (cure and equivalent).

[lulunami]

Just to inform those that did not play ARR 2.0 at the start, Scholar had these damage spells:

- Bio
- Miasma
- Bio II
- Aero
- Miasma II (AoE DoT)
- Shadowflare (ground AoE)
- Thunder
- Bane (AoE DoT spreader to 4 enemies)
- Ruin
- Ruin II
- Blizzard II (forgot about that one, thanks Pandurah)
- Energy Drain (forgot this one too)



12 damage spells available to SCH at the start of ARR 2.0. Over 10 years ago.

Somehow, you still healed more back then in ARR than you do now. I am not saying playing this game is that hard, since it is still an MMO. Just give healers more game play than an AFK gacha game.

[Pandurah]

snip snap

Indeed, and don't forget about Blizzard II, too!

[OogaShaka]

I main a healer and while doing damage is nice you are there to heal. A healers damage is not significant enough to cry rivers and post far too numerous threads whining. Good for your boycott , that means i will que faster, also to add if you want to do dps ...roll one.