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  1. #6731
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    With the ridiculous self sustain the tanks have and their rather high damage these days (an average tank is doing closer to a phys ranged damage than a healers damage) and the always easy first tier on patch clears using a third tank as replacement for the healer are going to become super common unless they hard implement role restrictions via actual true randomness
    (10)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  2. #6732
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    With the ridiculous self sustain the tanks have and their rather high damage these days (an average tank is doing closer to a phys ranged damage than a healers damage) and the always easy first tier on patch clears using a third tank as replacement for the healer are going to become super common unless they hard implement role restrictions via actual true randomness
    SE: *makes role bonus 2%*

    Also SE: What do you mean that didn’t fix it *shocked Pikachu face*

    Edit: to elaborate slightly further I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if they made role bonus an additional 1% then honestly believe that it would just stop everyone using ‘non-standard’ comps.
    Also it’s hilarious that they completely destroyed BLM (supposedly, I haven’t played it yet tbh) because it had ‘non-standard’ rotations, but they’re perfectly fine with the high viability of non-standard comps?
    Like make up your minds lol, are you enforcing players to a specific ‘standard’ or are you going to allow non-standard things to exist. Because right now they’re basically trying to have it both ways
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    Last edited by Connor; 07-11-2024 at 01:04 AM.

  3. #6733
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I'd honestly be surprised if a WAR can't solo the first floor of the normal raid at this point.
    You mean WAR won't be able to solo every floor? Outrageous, plz buff

    /s
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  4. #6734
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    Wildheaven182's Avatar
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimenital View Post
    what will make me sleep at night is when all of you actually stop whinging god knows i see enough of that shit on twitter.
    Do yourself a favor and get off of Twitter.
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  5. #6735
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    The character may be portrayed poorly, but her ideals are something worth striving for imo. It's a good ruler's perspective, albeit very idealistic. Except this is Final Fantasy, where there are precedents towards that idealistic reality in that game.

    So no, I don't think the idea about acceptance and understanding is wrong, nor hated by the community. We had multiple instances about the very themes of acceptance and understanding in multiple expansions. Even Heavensward had a lot of topics on understanding and acceptance towards differences in race. The whole dragonsong war initially stopped because people were able to put aside that difference initially, thereby living in Harmony with two distinct races and cultures merging into one. Estinen himself mentioned while being possessed, he intimately felt the rancor, fury, and grief -- and through the experience, Nidhogg is not so different from him. He now wields his lance not for men but for men and dragon both and his armor was given to him by Hraesvelgr.

    The cumulation of efforts in Endwalker also led to the renaming of Allied Society Quests rather than the Beast Tribe Quests. Putting aside differences in both appearance and way of life. Dawntrail is just another extension to that. The story might be told poorly compared to its previous expansions, but the themes still ring true.
    Crack heads have good ideas sometimes. Doesn't mean I won't ignore them for being crack heads.
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  6. #6736
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Adventurer in need bonus is still tank for most duties. I dont think healers are striking more than tanks switching to dps because PLD and DRK problems.

    I just hope devs are taking the feedback on healing. Otherwise they are just ignoring and saying " encounter design will fix healer issues"
    (1)

  7. #6737
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    HealerGuy's Avatar
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The problem is none of you are offering no solutions, just complaints.
    You need to be able to access any DPS added on the main controller cross hotabar and the upper one. Every slot is already used.

    So on WHM, what spells do you want removed and how would you replace them to add DPS?

    Why is it that everybody on this board comes off as angry? Why is it that everyone outside of this board disagrees with the takes on this board.
    You all might have put yourself in an unhealthy echo chamber.
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    Last edited by HealerGuy; 07-11-2024 at 02:42 AM.

  8. #6738
    Player LuciferMournstar's Avatar
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    Lucifer Mournstar
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    What concerns me is that healers who complain they have nothing to do are asking for issues. Either they will get it so they are bombarded with healing so that's all they get to do. Or the one I fear, I've had plenty and more healers who decided "Eh, I want to DPS" more than anything. Back in Celric Stance days, it was a nightmare. I had no issue with WHM's who wanted to use their staff as a bonking stick, but holy crap did a LOT of them go "MUH DPS!", and totally ignore healing anyone but the tank.
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  9. #6739
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    Grann-Goro's Avatar
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    Grann Goro
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    The problem is none of you are offering no solutions, just complaints.
    You need to be able to access any DPS added on the main controller cross hotabar and the upper one. Every slot is already used.

    So on WHM, what spells do you want removed and how would you replace them to add DPS?

    Why is it that everybody on this board comes off as angry? Why is it that everyone outside of this board disagrees with the takes on this board.
    You all might have put yourself in an unhealthy echo chamber.
    You already asked this, and several responses were already given to you.
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    Retired healer

  10. #6740
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    LyraShu's Avatar
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    Lyra Shuu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    The problem is none of you are offering no solutions, just complaints.
    You need to be able to access any DPS added on the main controller cross hotabar and the upper one. Every slot is already used.

    So on WHM, what spells do you want removed and how would you replace them to add DPS?

    Why is it that everybody on this board comes off as angry? Why is it that everyone outside of this board disagrees with the takes on this board.
    I mean, we were talking about one solution I had offered already. I know other people have put in graphs and responses also from all walks of the game (raiders to casuals). I know the mentality is "I am not gonna look through 600 pages of a forum post" but it has been discussed already. I do hope you have a good one though~
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