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  1. #1731
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    zwmel's Avatar
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    Lululo Lulo
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    Durandal
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Reduce the recovery of "oGCDHeal" by 1/3 and increase the need for "GCDHeal".
    Bring back the "stance" for healers that existed in ancient times!
    You will feel the importance of GCDHeal and the difficulty of doing damage at the same time!

    ...I feel like this was implemented many years ago in FFXIV...
    You may never know

    Someone probably wrote these complaints somewhere back then too!
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  2. #1732
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    ‘You can only have fun healing if you do high-level content’ seems like a pretty bad take to me. You’re essentially punishing every healer in the game for not doing savage or above
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  3. #1733
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post


    It had been running about 80% tank AIN and 20% healer AIN but had to laugh when it switched to that.

    Seems like there are plenty of healers out there doing content as usual and it's pretty unlikely to change at Dawntrail launch regardless of your strike.
    Someone explained the whole AIN system and why it seems wholly inconsistent at times. It first looks for specific queues that are missing a role but doesn't update until a set amount of time passes. If multiple roles are needed, it will always default to Tank -> Healer -> DPS. Hence why you always see tanks in demand yet if you actually queued, you'd wait a few minutes (sometimes upwards of 5+) as a tank but get an insta-queue as a healer.

    Basically, it's extremely unreliable as any sort of statistic.
    (20)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  4. #1734
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deevo View Post
    There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER.
    It's funny because healing in casual content actually used to be far more involved, and healers used to be far more complex but everyone complained about it being too hard, so square changed them to be easier and now people are complaining that it's too easy.


    It feels like there is this one guy, who creates multiple forum accounts to keep the circus running.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 06-14-2024 at 06:33 AM.

  5. #1735
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deevo View Post
    There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER.
    It's funny because healing in casual content actually used to be far more involved, and healers used to be far more complex but everyone complained about it being too hard, so square changed them to be easier and now people are complaining that it's too easy.
    I personally want to go back to the days when we could wipe in a dungeon because the healer got threat and freaked out and stops healing and everyone dies.
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  6. #1736
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    ZavosEsperian's Avatar
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    Alhaitha Aquila
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Then I'm honestly happy for you.

    I'm a big fan of doing what you personally find fun (as long as that doesn't mean maliciously ruining someone else's fun). It's why I've been in this forum encouraging posters to go play other games when they've gone on their "game sucks/game is dying" rants. If it's not fun to you, don't do it.
    Hyperbole aside, most of the people wanting changes made to how healer as a role feels or plays want to play this game. In addition, I believe it is good to allow people to discuss their grievances with a particular product because it shows they actually care about said product. Telling someone to play something else is effectively telling them to go buy something else, or to use a different product. How is someone who is not actively using a product able to give reliable feedback, especially if things change.

    I don't particularly have any issues with what anyone is doing, as I am able to play every role in the game and, for the most part, enjoy what I am doing. I also do not mind using the trust system, and I can effectively level all of my healers to max level without the need to engage with anyone else. As such I have the following question:

    Do you find malice in me leveling my healers via the Trust System instead of leveling my healers via group content with my reason being I have more fun healing the Trust NPCs than I do healing group content?
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  7. #1737
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deevo View Post
    There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER.
    It's funny because healing in casual content actually used to be far more involved, and healers used to be far more complex but everyone complained about it being too hard, so square changed them to be easier and now people are complaining that it's too easy.
    You are welcome to look up my raid characters in Cassandra or Ellie. You'll see I've healed up to and including Savage. I've even gone GCDless in PF. And no, that wasn't at the expense of "chadding" my co-healer. Granted, that does indirectly happen because, well, if they want to spam Medica II/E.Prog for every hit, I really don't need to heal.

    To put it bluntly, not even most Savage fights are designed to challenge healers constantly spamming their GCD tools. Succor/E.Prog on almost every raidwide would completely invalidate them alongside the rest of our overpowered oGCD suite. Regardless, why should players who don't necessarily want to do Savage have zero gameplay relevance in other content? Tanks certainly aren't tanking all that much but at least they have a DPS rotation to fall back to keep themselves engaged. Healers have... a single button they spam 150+ times a fight.

    Healers weren't really involved in the past. They simply had more options when healing was necessarily. Nevertheless, has it ever occurred to you the players complaining back then aren't the same as those complaining now?
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  8. #1738
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    Ghuval Tir'ein
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Lending my support. I am admittedly a casual. However, healing has been intensely boring (except for when people play poorly) since Shadowbringers. It was gut-wrenching logging in that first day to see how many skill icons were greyed out on my scholar. Outside of groups, having nothing but a nuke and a dot for the story is criminal. Until things change for healers (make healing more intense/active at all times, add more DPS options, add a minigame where I chase a namazu running loose in a dungeon for points so that I can keep track of my score, etc.), I'll be shelving my healers from the meager amount of group content I do.
    (26)

  9. #1739
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    psychotic_mage's Avatar
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    Makona Wakefield
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I'll sign. I would love for more healing abilities. Usually main whm but they stripped my boy of all his tools.
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  10. 06-14-2024 06:56 AM
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    Nevermind, troll detected

  11. #1740
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    You can't even enter a savage raid without normal mode, high end content doesn't exist in a vacuum.

    It's also by definition something most people won't do
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