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    TsubameMikage's Avatar
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    Celes Miret-njer
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 15
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    If you have bigger DPS toolkit, you are expected to use it
    Your logic is inconsistent.

    Healers are already expected to use their DPS kit, and if the issue is "you should be using all your kit all the time" - then why isn't that true for healing, as well? I, and others, literally don't have the majority of our heal spells on our bars because they're not needed.

    If we're don't have to heal, and we're not going to be able to have engaging DPS gameplay, why on earth do we exist?

    Go touch grass or go play DPS.
    Thank you for your support and understanding of what our strike is meant to do.


    We havent even seen yet how much damage will this Savage gonna brings
    Most players don't touch savage, or even extremes. Not that this issue doesn't persist there either.

    nobody cares about your strike.
    And yet here you are, showing your support. Thank you!


    I have insta quee as tank and long quee as healer, so I can only laugh.
    And thank you for queuing as healer so we don't have to, we appreciate it.
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    SaltyDaddy's Avatar
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    Salty Daddy
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    Your logic is inconsistent.

    Healers are already expected to use their DPS kit, and if the issue is "you should be using all your kit all the time" - then why isn't that true for healing, as well? I, and others, literally don't have the majority of our heal spells on our bars because they're not needed.



    If we're don't have to heal, and we're not going to be able to have engaging DPS gameplay, why on earth do we exist?
    No. Healers arent supposed to use all their healing toolkit if everything goes right. Healers ARE MEANT TO BE OVERPOWERED. Why? Because if fights are made to use all your heals, then what will you do if something goes wrong? Healers are there to babysit and watch the rest of the party. A lot of the skills are situational and there were instances I used all my skills when shit hit the fan.

    Also, another thing - if you are supposed to use your full toolkit in a fight, if you mess up your healing rotation, it would also get wipe. Think about it before you wish for something.

    And if you don't have your healing spells on your bar... God, I hope to never get you in roulette. Wait, I play WAR on NA. IDC. HAHA.

    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    Thank you for your support and understanding of what our strike is meant to do.
    Then play DPS and don't whine? Or hear me out - Give ACTUALL GOOD IDEAS, because OP is just crybaby without a single idea how to fix it. And no, removing self sustain isn't it. And if there were some ideas, idc, because I'm not gonna read 600 pages of complete madness.


    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    Most players don't touch savage, or even extremes. Not that this issue doesn't persist there either.
    Healers want to heal more, but don't want to heal content that requires little bit more of the proper healing. Yoshida is trully meant to add more damage to casual content where people die all the time anyway. Seems about right. Also, ultimate raiders ask for completly different changes than OP. They don't want bs like removing party mits and selfsustain.

    How I wish you all played in 1.0 and ARR. Maybe you would like it. It sucked for anyone else.

    Anyway, why am I even reacting? Im dumb. I will go and enjoy DT. SO far its fun. Cya!
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    Last edited by SaltyDaddy; 07-04-2024 at 08:58 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I would suggest to just use the free login campaigns for doing MSQ. No point in paying at all.

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    aiqa's Avatar
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    No. Healers arent supposed to use all their healing toolkit if everything goes right. Healers ARE MEANT TO BE OVERPOWERED.
    Why are warrior ogcd selfheals against bosses pretty much the same as what a WHM can with ogcd+lilly healing on a tank? And on top of that, some of those heals from WHM like Assize and Lithurgy can't be used nearly as freely as the selfheals from WAR. If those heals from WHM are OP, sometimes fiinicky, and not meant to be used constantly. Why does WAR need similar levels of ogcd heals, in such an easy to use way that they can just use it whenever?

    And to make the potency stuff a bit less handwavy, I already compared that a bit more in depth a few pages back.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 07-04-2024 at 09:16 PM.