#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kes13a]

looks like Yoshi P and crew need to revisit WoW for some advice....Posted by Kaivax on WoWhead, a WoW community manager and employee

"With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

World of Warcraft is an MMO, and its multiplayer aspects are a major strength. Group content is extremely rewarding when players performing different roles come together to overcome a challenge. We want to reinforce the importance of the healer role and work towards gameplay where tanks and healers collaborate to reduce the damage the tank is taking and to restore the tank’s lost health."

[Isala]

looks like Yoshi P and crew need to revisit WoW for some advice....Posted by Kaivax on WoWhead, a WoW community manager and employee

"With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

World of Warcraft is an MMO, and its multiplayer aspects are a major strength. Group content is extremely rewarding when players performing different roles come together to overcome a challenge. We want to reinforce the importance of the healer role and work towards gameplay where tanks and healers collaborate to reduce the damage the tank is taking and to restore the tank’s lost health."

Man, that's kinda sad that WoW is paying more attention to its players than XIV is, considering that game's recent history.

[Kes13a]

Man, that's kinda sad that WoW is paying more attention to its players than XIV is, considering that game's recent history.

you know... a thought occurred to me. what if Blizzard isnt listening to its players... but seeing the issue there.. and making this announcement to try and lure some of its players back from FFXIV? wont work for me, I have no interest in WoW anymore, but it does kind of read like "HEY! we value our healing community! come play with us, we want your $15 a month...."

[Shurrikhan]

looks like Yoshi P and crew need to revisit WoW for some advice....Posted by Kaivax on WoWhead, a WoW community manager and employee

"With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

World of Warcraft is an MMO, and its multiplayer aspects are a major strength. Group content is extremely rewarding when players performing different roles come together to overcome a challenge. We want to reinforce the importance of the healer role and work towards gameplay where tanks and healers collaborate to reduce the damage the tank is taking and to restore the tank’s lost health."

The sad thing is that even at the height of tank power there, I still have decent engagement as a healer. Yes, there's little to no need to heal the Blood Death Knight, but I still have at least double the damage dealing complexity, more support-oriented agency, and far more to heal among non-tanks.

[Ramiee]

If you suggest a mit plan in anything other then ultimates you will not get far. It’s kinda hilarious how many tools specific jobs have but don’t use. Self responsibility has gone down the drain for quick some time now.

Yeah, remembering my time in ARR-SB for raids is a bit hazy but I do remember DPS actually planning around mitigations, buffs and bursts to balance TP and MP usage. HW I have blanked out a bunch (probably due to trauma) but I specifically remember the DPS discussing TP and a period to align buffs for a burst.
Compared to now where everything is automated to be bursty every 2 minutes it feels alien to discuss anything that isn't boss mechanics.

[Aravell]

What is wrong with people that they'd read the above and have a fit about it. It's great advice. On W2W holy will "heal" more than any other action a WHM can do until it stops working. Also remove ground bubbles for everyone.

Given I've gotten yelled at for things like saying "Tank Stance please" as I, as the healer, am being beat on by trash mobs...I 100% believe this.

It's very funny when you ask the tank to put on tank stance and someone else just retorts with "Let them learn!".

It is one singular button press. A child can learn that within seconds.

[Aravell]

The Japanese base is more likely to be more agreeable with the japanese company. As well as the fanbase's culture of rejecting criticism in all forms, and the intensity of japanese conformity culture.
Like the rest, the view is that Square can do do wrong and it's their job to justify it.
Lastly, to the japanese playerbase, healer is an inherently inferior role, so it is correct and natural to keep it in its place.

I wouldn't jump on the JP playerbase for this. The unsatisfied ones are very likely not airing their grievances on a moderated forum (because theirs is moderated, unlike ours).

If you want a better unfiltered read on what they think about the job design, try 2ch.

[Rolder50]

I wouldn't jump on the JP playerbase for this. The unsatisfied ones are very likely not airing their grievances on a moderated forum (because theirs is moderated, unlike ours).

If you want a better unfiltered read on what they think about the job design, try 2ch.

Someone linked the 2ch opinion on the story in some other thread and hoooo buddy there were some spicy takes

[Kozmakis]

Man, that's kinda sad that WoW is paying more attention to its players than XIV is, considering that game's recent history.

They are now, because they lost a lot of players by not listening and making the game a chore in the past 2 expansions. It used to be super time-consuming, you were required to do certain content to get legendary gear even if you didn't like it, otherwise you were powercrept by others and nobody would take you in a group. So you had to do stuff for hours before you could play the game the way you like it.

That's one of FFXIV's biggest competitive edges in my opinion, it's respects people's time... That being said, WoW is changing, a new expansion is coming in a little over a month and as much as I enjoy the DPS job, I miss being a healer... and no, not a Dosis spammer.

I am hoping SE will start communicating soon on this matter, it is almost impossible they haven't heard about it by now. If they didn't or they decide to ignore it, then their ego's might have become too big and a wave of subscription cancellations might be the slap they need, just like it happened to Blizzard...

[Kes13a]

I am hoping SE will start communicating soon on this matter, it is almost impossible they haven't heard about it by now. If they didn't or they decide to ignore it, then their ego's might have become too big and a wave of subscription cancellations might be the slap they need, just like it happened to Blizzard...

thats my hope as well. I want to stay in FFXIV, generally, I enjoy the world, I enjoy the look, I enjoy everything on one character. I enjoy healing when I get to do it, not so much into dps, but if I feel dps-y, I can switch to a different job for that.

do I expect a 180 degree about face? not at all. thats unrealistic. what would be nice is actual communication one way or the other. Yoshi P saying "oops, we may have gone too far" is nice and all, but I want something a bit more concrete than "wait and see what happens in 8.0!!!!"

we need to know if there is room in the lifeboat for healers, or if we are going down with the ship, and SE is the only entity that can answer that.