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  1. #6191
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    TsubameMikage's Avatar
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    Celes Miret-njer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Imagine being a healer and not healing.
    Don't have to - I'm a healer who doesn't have to heal, because it's simply not needed. Even in high end content, the amount of healing needed is minimal compared to the amount of times you press your 1 damage button.
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  2. #6192
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucienFaust View Post
    This interview does not make you healerstrike peeps look good at all. https://youtu.be/4_NsNMEAdPo?si=_OulG9xLb7GaYjFa as someone who likes to heal on the side having mechanics with every boss or at least most should have engaging moments with healers.
    I think the major problem with the Healer Strike is whether or not the claims are valid or not (I personally agree with most if not all of them), the perception by the broader community is just so negative it seems its insane. The idea that people who are upset won't renew their sub just appears to the average person as "Okay they don't like something and won't engage with it. What is the big deal?"
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  3. #6193
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie_Roses View Post
    I think the major problem with the Healer Strike is whether or not the claims are valid or not (I personally agree with most if not all of them), the perception by the broader community is just so negative it seems its insane. The idea that people who are upset won't renew their sub just appears to the average person as "Okay they don't like something and won't engage with it. What is the big deal?"
    Xiv's toxic underbelly showing itself. I think the terminology is polarizing in itself, and people have latched on to the stupidest part of strawmans.
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  4. #6194
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucienFaust View Post
    This interview does not make you healerstrike peeps look good at all. https://youtu.be/4_NsNMEAdPo?si=_OulG9xLb7GaYjFa as someone who likes to heal on the side having mechanics with every boss or at least most should have engaging moments with healers.
    Got a TL;DR because I'm not going to watch a 2 hour video about someone quite possibly misrepresenting the issue...
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  5. #6195
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    Cap Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Got a TL;DR because I'm not going to watch a 2 hour video about someone quite possibly misrepresenting the issue...
    It's the same thing as this thread really. Different people are upset about different things and want different solutions to the problems they see. Four "leaders" of the movement gave four different takes from four different levels of experience and backgrounds. But anyone who dares suggest that the goalposts are moving is met with "YoU dIDn'T rEaD tHe pOsT". Gcbtw.
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  6. #6196
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Got a TL;DR because I'm not going to watch a 2 hour video about someone quite possibly misrepresenting the issue...
    I thought the interview was quite good. Dunno which side you are referring to misrepresenting things.
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  7. #6197
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Xiv's toxic underbelly showing itself. I think the terminology is polarizing in itself, and people have latched on to the stupidest part of strawmans.
    And suprising no one the inclusive and loving community turns out to actually be toxic to anyone who doesn't completely conform to it.
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  8. #6198
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    notice it's mostly the newer players complaining....yet it's mostly the newer players letting me as a tank main die
    Citation needed.
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  9. #6199
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capstone View Post
    It's the same thing as this thread really. Different people are upset about different things and want different solutions to the problems they see. Four "leaders" of the movement gave four different takes from four different levels of experience and backgrounds. But anyone who dares suggest that the goalposts are moving is met with "YoU dIDn'T rEaD tHe pOsT". Gcbtw.
    Why is it difficult to accept there are multiple issues with healers. And the issues individual people focus on are what is most important for getting their own enjoyment out of the game. From what I've seen people supporting the strike have been quite open about that.

    And the last time I've seen a reaction to someone claiming the strike is moving goalposts was my own. And that was very very very far from what you're claiming. That was against someone that argued that the strike couldn't be a success if it didn't disrupt the game. And the idea that the strike has to disrupt the game has mostly been promoted by people opposing the strike. If you look through the whole thread I am sure you can find 1 or 2 people who support the strike and also think it has to disrupt the game, but that was certainly not a consensus. So disagreeing with that, is not moving goalposts.
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  10. #6200
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    Claire Estguard
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    Goblin
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    If you think healers have nothing to do. Do anything in the worst combat expansion and the hardest; Dawntrail. If you haven't done any of it as a healer. Thanks your problem thinking theres nothing to do.
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