#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[aiqa]

No, because I'm not the one trying to claim that my viewpoint references the player base as a whole, and that's the entire point of it. Unlike some, I know that my opinion is just that. My opinion. People are assuming that due to the interactions on this thread, that this must represent a large portion of the demographic, which we can clearly see does not reflect the actuality at all.

You made an explicit claim about how many people share the OP's ideology. That is not only talking about yourself, that is making assumptions about the ideology of the wider FF playerbase.

[Kira619]

You made an explicit claim about how many people share the OP's ideology. That is not only talking about yourself, that is making assumptions about the ideology of the wider FF playerbase.

Not true. The purpose of the claim was to debuke the idea that somehow this thread being over 500 pages must somehow represent a large portion of the the gaming demographic. Thus pinpointing the fact that 360 people liking the post out of a 257k daily player audience clearly indicates there is no way to say that for certain. Judging by this thread alone (which again was also the parameters used to support a larger viewpoint due to it's 500 page length), we have 0.001% of the audience supporting said ideology.

Any attempts at pinpointing my topic as indicating the audience as a whole is shifting the message, especially since this thread would largely be representative of those falling within the 367 people that supports the OP's message and would thus like such messages that supports that particular biases.

[KitiaraIornsight]

Not true. The purpose of the claim was to debuke the idea that somehow this thread being over 500 pages must somehow represent a large portion of the the gaming demographic. Thus pinpointing the fact that 360 people liking the post out of a 257k daily player audience clearly indicates there is no way to say that for certain. Judging by this thread alone (which again was also the parameters used to support a larger viewpoint due to it's 500 page length), we have 0.001% of the audience supporting said ideology.

Don't bother Kira, those striking are absolutely 10000% convinced their views are the majority view of the player base that plays heals that they certainly don't listen when healer mains like myself say otherwise. They also seem to think that the echo chamber that is the overall dumpster fire of these forums represents the whole sum total majority view of the playerbase when MOST players never step foot in here and it only tends to be the loudest complainers that post feedback.

[Isala]

Don't bother Kira, those striking are absolutely 10000% convinced their views are the majority view of the player base that plays heals that they certainly don't listen when healer mains like myself say otherwise. They also seem to think that the echo chamber that is the overall dumpster fire of these forums represents the whole sum total majority view of the playerbase when MOST players never step foot in here and it only tends to be the loudest complainers that post feedback.

Even if it was true that the "Majority" of people are okay with healers, literally any election ever has proven why trusting the majority to make an intelligent decision about things that affect them is often a bad idea. That's also ignoring just how many people have given up and just stopped playing XIV in general because of how trash the healers are. They're not going to be here talking about the game. They're busy actually enjoying literally anything else that doesn't make them depressed.

[CrimsonGunner]

Don't bother Kira, those striking are absolutely 10000% convinced their views are the majority view of the player base that plays heals that they certainly don't listen when healer mains like myself say otherwise. They also seem to think that the echo chamber that is the overall dumpster fire of these forums represents the whole sum total majority view of the playerbase when MOST players never step foot in here and it only tends to be the loudest complainers that post feedback.

weird cause most healers are displeased with the changes, your saying your ok with sge dont have double dots in DT in the end?
your claiming based on your view that healers are perfect then everyone else think they ok? cause from being seen alot had their soul taken from the DEVS changes...

you may be right the views are not majority but reality a bit disagree with you.

the fact it got this coverage, many people agree with the core reasons of their strike and wishing healers to be better tells a different story buddy.

maybe not healers will strike but it doesnt mean they dont get the reasons behind it and agree that stuff need to be changed...

[KitiaraIornsight]

weird cause most healers are displeased with the changes, your saying your ok with sge dont have double dots in DT in the end?
your claiming based on your view that healers are perfect then everyone else think they ok? cause from being seen alot had their soul taken from the DEVS changes...

you may be right the views are not majority but reality a bit disagree with you.

the fact it got this coverage, many people agree with the core reasons of their strike and wishing healers to be better tells a different story buddy.

maybe not healers will strike but it doesnt mean they dont get the reasons behind it and agree that stuff need to be changed...

No, I don't care if it has double DOTs or not. I've played other jobs, such as bard who has double dots, and I was thrilled the day they added the magic button that refreshed BOTH DOTs simultaneously because god forbid I get caught even in casual content by try hards that would call someone out for letting a DOT fall off even for .5secs.... so yeah, i'm glad i don't have to manage two DOTs... it was annoying on bard before they added the skill that refreshed both, it was annoying on scholar back in the day, it was annoying on Summoner back in the day. I even healed back when stance dancing was a thing, also highly annoying. I've been through all the ways healers have changed and the current way they play, both shields and pure heals is a direct result of feedback the devs received over the years and that's what the majority of strikers seem to overlook. Healing got so hard that people wouldn't TOUCH the job. They made it easier, then there was still a large chunk that said "I don't want to dps I want to heal" they took away all but the bare minimum and now a small portion of the player base wants to reverse course on that. I'm at the point where I'm convinced there will never be a happy side in this, but at the end of the day the Devs do have more data about things than anyone knows and there is clearly a reason why they are sticking to the current healer design.

[CrimsonGunner]

No, I don't care if it has double DOTs or not. I've played other jobs, such as bard who has double dots, and I was thrilled the day they added the magic button that refreshed BOTH DOTs simultaneously because god forbid I get caught even in casual content by try hards that would call someone out for letting a DOT fall off even for .5secs.... so yeah, i'm glad i don't have to manage two DOTs... it was annoying on bard before they added the skill that refreshed both, it was annoying on scholar back in the day, it was annoying on Summoner back in the day. I even healed back when stance dancing was a thing, also highly annoying. I've been through all the ways healers have changed and the current way they play, both shields and pure heals is a direct result of feedback the devs received over the years and that's what the majority of strikers seem to overlook. Healing got so hard that people wouldn't TOUCH the job. They made it easier, then there was still a large chunk that said "I don't want to dps I want to heal" they took away all but the bare minimum and now a small portion of the player base wants to reverse course on that. I'm at the point where I'm convinced there will never be a happy side in this, but at the end of the day the Devs do have more data about things than anyone knows and there is clearly a reason why they are sticking to the current healer design.

yes it called being stubborn and ignore feedback.

tbh being afraid of being called out is a you problem not a dev.
il be clear about it, dev problem is when skills don't function or when there is a huge disparity between each job or major issues with a job classic example is ast apm issue or mp issues in shb not someone calling a person out cause he didn't put a dot which at this iteration if you didn't is kind of embarrassing not to so i guess your in an even worse position now bud.

while you and me dont care about double dots, you had the majority of healers in other social media mourn and had their soul ripped so guess what that says...(a hint: majority means more the half agree with an opinion)

so you don't represent the masses, neither am i but reality proves that healer community do care about the issues brought by the healer strike and its not something you can deny well unless you prefer to bury your head in sand and go lalala.

cause the truth is, if people didn't care at all. this thread would have been ignored and not liked by more then 10 people.

[KitiaraIornsight]

yes it called being stubborn and ignore feedback.

tbh being afraid of being called out is a you problem not a dev.

while you and me dont care about double dots, you had the majority of healers in other social media mourn and had their soul ripped so guess what that says...(a hint: majority means more the half agree with an opinion)

so you don't represent the masses, neither am i but reality proves that healer community do care about the issues brought by the healer strike and its not something you can deny well unless you prefer to bury your head in sand and go lalala.

cause the truth is, if people didn't care at all. that thread would have been ignored and not liked by more then 10 people.

uh you must not be on the same social media as me, because no, most healers i know and posts i've seen have been quite the opposite.

[Rolder50]

cause the truth is, if people didn't care at all. this thread would have been ignored and not liked by more then 10 people.

Pretty sure the OP here is top 10 for most liked threads on the forums. It certainly shows up at the top if you search by page count.

[Isala]

No, I don't care if it has double DOTs or not. I've played other jobs, such as bard who has double dots, and I was thrilled the day they added the magic button that refreshed BOTH DOTs simultaneously because god forbid I get caught even in casual content by try hards that would call someone out for letting a DOT fall off even for .5secs.... so yeah, i'm glad i don't have to manage two DOTs... it was annoying on bard before they added the skill that refreshed both, it was annoying on scholar back in the day, it was annoying on Summoner back in the day. I even healed back when stance dancing was a thing, also highly annoying. I've been through all the ways healers have changed and the current way they play, both shields and pure heals is a direct result of feedback the devs received over the years and that's what the majority of strikers seem to overlook. Healing got so hard that people wouldn't TOUCH the job. They made it easier, then there was still a large chunk that said "I don't want to dps I want to heal" they took away all but the bare minimum and now a small portion of the player base wants to reverse course on that. I'm at the point where I'm convinced there will never be a happy side in this, but at the end of the day the Devs do have more data about things than anyone knows and there is clearly a reason why they are sticking to the current healer design.

PFFFFFFFFFFTT! You serious? The same devs that designed 1.0, because they "clearly knew better". This dev team does not have a great track record of making good decisions for their playerbase. Look at the condition of Viera and Hrothgar, and tell me that this dev team makes design choices for clear reasons. The same dev team that had to nerf Ninja because players found a better rotation. The same dev team that had to buff AST after telling people for MONTHS that they just didn't understand AST.

Also, who are these imaginary try hards who will yell at you for dropping a DoT? Cause you're out here making up enemies to fight in your head just like you're making up a quality dev team.