#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Reinha]

Guessing the expansion launches and we get 100 pages of people saying they got groups immediately and the strike failed, before we lose interest for 2 more years.

Oh no way, I don't think people (dps) are going to get groups immediately at all. I was here in Stormblood when we had the first double dps expansion and the queues were much longer than usual. It may not be because of the strike, but people are certainly not going to be celebrating their instant queues.

Here's someone talking about it 4 months after Stormblood release, and the comments agree the queue times were long.

Of course I could be wrong and I would be happy to be, considering I'll be playing dps myself.

[Cach]

Traditionally, tanks are rare almost all times of the year, but specially during expansion launches. I don't think that will change much.

If you think about it, perhaps Square's need to make the tanking role more desirable is what indirectly planted the seeds of healing design troubles. But that's a whole another discussion I guess.

[EusisLandale]

Traditionally, tanks that are rare almost all times of the year, but specially during expansion launches. I don't think that will change much.

I recall someone mentioning earlier, probably in this thread, that the way the in need system even bothers to show things is flawed for just moving down the list by tank, healer, then DPS. I don't know how accurate that statement was, but it generally tracks with what can be observed.
Like say you have 6 groups, absurdly small but bare with it, and they're 1T1D, 1T2D, 1T2D, 1T1D1H, 2D, and 2D1H. To fill all of these you'd need 2 tanks, 2 DPS and 4 healers. Healers clearly have the greatest need, but tanks are needed too and the system prioritizes displaying that. This is why it constantly says we need tanks, but trying to queue as a tank still leaves you waiting while a healer pops almost instantly.

[Supersnow845]

AIN biases tanks 100%, simply because tank is the “default AIN” when either nobody is needed or everyone is needed. The only time healers are AIN is when BOTH healers are needed and tanks specifically aren’t needed, for DPS both healers and tanks need to not be needed

This is because tanks did use to be the rarer role overall in HW and SB, it’s also why the tank mount and tank achievement system exists. However since ShB healers flipped to the rarer role (as per the most recent lucky brancho mega census there is now 50% more tanks than healers and about half as many tanks as DPS) but they never updated the system to prioritise healers by default

So currently tanks get all the benefits as the “coddled super rare role” while healers are actually rarer

[Striker44]

We need to stay hopeful to some degree. This strike is already doing a good job of getting people to talk about healer issues. I personally expect DT to experience a dried up green river.

Gotta say it - I'd prepare for disappointment then. We're going to have a huge influx of players, some new, many returning. The size of the strike likely isn't even going to be a blip in comparison, and if by some chance it is, as soon as the "in need" role switches from Tank to Healer, there will be plenty of those new and returning people lining up to take the bonus.

Here's someone talking about it 4 months after Stormblood release, and the comments agree the queue times were long.

This further makes the strike unlikely to do anything. Even if other queues get slightly longer...that's entirely what's expected, especially with this being another expansion featuring both new roles being DPS.

[LalafellDown]

I don’t think the strike is going to work because you guys are still paying the sub and buying the expansion. Also isn’t healing going to get harder in 7.0 due to more intense pulls and difficulty. Since we’re getting harder dungeons.

[Rolder50]

I don’t think the strike is going to work because you guys are still paying the sub and buying the expansion. Also isn’t healing going to get harder in 7.0 due to more intense pulls and difficulty. Since we’re getting harder dungeons.

The goal isn't to hit the wallet because we don't hate the game to that degree, just to draw attention to the issue. Which it seems to be doing already and the strike hasn't even happened yet.

And regarding the difficulty, YoshiP said the exact same thing before Endwalker and it didn't happen, so I do not believe it at all.

[TheDustyOne]

And regarding the difficulty, YoshiP said the exact same thing before Endwalker and it didn't happen, so I do not believe it at all.

I remember the same thing being said for ShB, and the media tour vid that supposedly "started" this strike only showcased that it's not going to be any different.

[TsubameMikage]

I don’t think the strike is going to work because you guys are still paying the sub and buying the expansion. Also isn’t healing going to get harder in 7.0 due to more intense pulls and difficulty. Since we’re getting harder dungeons.

I'm not, I got my refund a few days ago, and my sub runs out just as maintenance ends.

[GartredZW]

Kaurhz is right if you want to be raiding.

Statics and raiders automatically assume you have something to hide if you hide your logs. That means they assume you parse grey.

A grey parse is worth an infinite number of golds that wiped. I'm not joining a static that requires I present a set of logs like it's my resume. I'm just trying to play the game. You want a Black Mage that can raid? Give me a chance to prove how competent I am, and we'll see if you want to keep me around.