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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I guess I'll be switching from tank main to healer main since all these people aren't going to be healing, the heal que will be much shorter
    Awesome! That’s exactly what we want lol
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    I have to say healers have been pretty unnecessary for dungeons so far. Pretty much feel like they're sandbagging and slowing us down prefer to take like a red mage in their place.
    I thought all the healing potency buffs would mean something but I guess not, there doesn't seem to be much unavoidable damage to heal.
    (12)

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    Aldath's Avatar
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
    World
    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Honestly, I haven't done any of the 90+ dungeons, and I have done every Trial and Raid currently available in Normal difficulty, but in my experience as a Scholar (was my main for quite some time, retook it recently)

    The only time I feel completely useless is when there's a WAR in the party. Most of the time I am busy trying to keep the party alive and using most of my abilities in casual content; maybe I just have crap luck and I get placed with people even worse than me. That said, I support in spirit whatever strike Healers would plan. I am comfortable with the role as is, but if the majority isn't, then things will have to change. There's many things about this game I wish we could influence, and I hope this works for the better.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    When this strike page started almost 600 pages ago I was firmly in the camp of “this won’t affect the queues but hopefully the catchy name and the discourse will finally allow people to see how bad healers are”, which in a way it did. I don’t know if they will hear any of it (or if they will spend the entire expansion fixing the travesty that is BLM) but I’ve reached a point that I don’t care

    PCT is so hilariously well designed compared to anything around it and I enjoy it so much that the healers can genuinely go rot in a corner at this point.

    If you wanna be contrarian to the strike please you have my every blessing to make my PCT queues faster, I’ve genuinely stopped caring about the state of healers and have moved to “I hope this strike continues to generate contrarians that will fill my queues so I can have fun
    (9)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    GreatCait's Avatar
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    Celina Galphora
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 58
    I started as a WHM when I first started the game. By the end of ARR, I moved on to the Tank role, and then DPS, and haven't played a healer again until just today when I got frustrated with the queue times.

    Honestly, I get it now. My thumb hurts from pressing Circle to cast Stone so much. But also, it's nice to be able to just be able to play the game.

    I feel conflicted, because I want queue times for DPS jobs to go back to being semi reasonable. On the other hand, healers really need some TLC.
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    Tunda's Avatar
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    When this strike page started almost 600 pages ago I was firmly in the camp of “this won’t affect the queues but hopefully the catchy name and the discourse will finally allow people to see how bad healers are”, which in a way it did. I don’t know if they will hear any of it (or if they will spend the entire expansion fixing the travesty that is BLM) but I’ve reached a point that I don’t care

    PCT is so hilariously well designed compared to anything around it and I enjoy it so much that the healers can genuinely go rot in a corner at this point.

    If you wanna be contrarian to the strike please you have my every blessing to make my PCT queues faster, I’ve genuinely stopped caring about the state of healers and have moved to “I hope this strike continues to generate contrarians that will fill my queues so I can have fun
    I said it once if you don't enjoy current healer state just play picto having fun is the most important
    (1)

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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    No, what you've (the collective "you" that has been posting, not necessarily "you" specifically) been doing for 5 years is giving your own opinion on why you personally find healing terrible for you. That's very different than proving that healers are actually in a terrible place from the perspective of the larger playerbase and game design. Some of those very same things that one person will claim makes healers "bad" is exactly what makes another person enjoy them (for example - people who want healers to have more dps abilities vs. people who want healers to focus considerably on healing and specifically don't want to be running dps rotations while playing a healer role).
    So all the factual charts and logs we've been posting showing that there's not enough healing needed in high end content to the point where we're spending 60-90% of our uptime spamming 1 single button is "our own opinion"?

    Alright then, I don't have anything else to say to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’ve genuinely stopped caring about the state of healers and have moved to “I hope this strike continues to generate contrarians that will fill my queues so I can have fun
    Same.

    I'm doing the MSQ for the first time on a non-healer and I'm actually having a lot of fun.

    If people want to put their money where their mouth is and actually main healer to spite us, I say that's a great idea.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 07-01-2024 at 12:51 PM.

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    Shayalan
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Well in my Datacenter as DPS you need to queue 20-30 Minuts for each Roulette because barely anyone plays something else.
    The reason for that is mostly that we got two new DPS Classes (the Pictomancer does play nicely i will add) i did hear some FC Mates talk about the Healer Strike and those were not Forum visitors.
    So who knows maybe it did contributed to the Situation.
    (6)

  9. #9
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    Well in my Datacenter as DPS you need to queue 20-30 Minuts for each Roulette because barely anyone plays something else.
    The reason for that is mostly that we got two new DPS Classes (the Pictomancer does play nicely i will add) i did hear some FC Mates talk about the Healer Strike and those were not Forum visitors.
    So who knows maybe it did contributed to the Situation.
    More than likely, it's just another drop in the bucket. BUT we managed to make people aware that we have issues. Like you said, even non forum goers have heard of a healer strike going on.
    This is probably the most we could achieve on our own. People are talking now. They might Attribute part of the queue times to us or Not, but word that many veterans no longer enjoy Healers has finally left the forums and lonely reddit Posts.
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    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    There has been people shouting something along the line of “How’s that healer strike going now, huh? Got my quick pop.” in new zones. Ironically by saying things like that they’re inevitably assisting in our endeavor: to get our discussion points being known to common players. I never try to actively speak of the strike to most of my CWLS & just yesterday they came to ask if I know anything about the healerstrike because they recognized that I’m a healer main & they heard of it in their first trial of DT. Had a good conversation with them as I gave them the enlightenment
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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