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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Actually, I've been looking at tanks and DPS another way recently, specifically how I know some who are pro-healer strike who plan on deliberately ignoring mechanics/eating as much damage as possible come Dawntrail to give the anti-strike "thanks for the instant queue" healers a hard time, lol. I mean, it's "no big deal" right? There's "nothing to complain about" right? (Alternately, you have the anti-strike tanks and DPS who want to give any unfortunate queuing pro-strikers "something engaging to do, just like you whined about".)

    As well, there's also pro-strike healers who are planning on continuing to queue, but are going to do exactly what the devs demand of them: Be green DPS only, refusing to toss out a single heal because tank and DPS self-sustain is "working as intended" and if a wipe happens then "ask for more self-heals then, at least they listen to *you*".

    So yeah, we've reached the point already where a unknown quantity of people are going to grief the current system because it might have better results than sitting out and pouting because as others have pointed out, that hasn't worked even once yet. Now turning the new expansions duties into a total clown fiesta... well, who knows what that could result in. Peaceful protest may just not be enough this time.
    I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.
    So people aren't allowed to quit a role if they don't enjoy it? Neat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    So people aren't allowed to quit a role if they don't enjoy it? Neat
    Did you read what was quoted? People aren't just talking about quitting a role. They're talking about ignoring mechanics and swimming in AoEs to grief people still playing healers. Or going in as the role and not healing. It has nothing to do with people not being allowed to quit a role they don't enjoy. Being unhappy with a role is NOT a blank check to grief others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Did you read what was quoted? People aren't just talking about quitting a role. They're talking about ignoring mechanics and swimming in AoEs to grief people still playing healers. Or going in as the role and not healing. It has nothing to do with people not being allowed to quit a role they don't enjoy. Being unhappy with a role is NOT a blank check to grief others.
    Which nobody is doing

    Some people randomly came in having no idea what we were doing, said that with no evidence then people jumped on that as if that’s what we were doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Which nobody is doing

    Some people randomly came in having no idea what we were doing, said that with no evidence then people jumped on that as if that’s what we were doing
    To be fair the original post says that those participating aren't going to engage with the role at all. Yet there all kinds of people saying they're still going to heal for friends, or statics, or level their healers without Duty Finder. There doesn't seem to be any organized agreement on how those participating will do things. So how can any of you say that someone won't decide to do this?
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    Hoo, boy, our little doomed rebellion is going great i see.
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Did you read what was quoted? People aren't just talking about quitting a role. They're talking about ignoring mechanics and swimming in AoEs to grief people still playing healers. Or going in as the role and not healing. It has nothing to do with people not being allowed to quit a role they don't enjoy. Being unhappy with a role is NOT a blank check to grief others.
    Point me where and when this was posted in the original post?
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    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Hoo, boy, our little doomed rebellion is going great i see.

    Point me where and when this was posted in the original post?
    Review Aidorouge's posts over the last few pages about what they've heard people saying they will do in-game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.
    So, by you, switching job is actually punishing other players ?

    In other word, you just said that anyone who's not playing healer is punishing the community.

    What kind of logic is that ? But you're a main healer right ?
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    Healer? What do you even need one for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.
    The strikers aren't punishing fellow players.

    They're doing what their fellow players have been doing - choosing to play a job they find fun. Healing isn't fun for them anymore so they're not going to play a healer.

    There are still other healer mains like me that do find healing generally fun and we'll be sticking with it. There will be other players that don't generally main healer but they don't mind healing either. If queue times get long enough, some of them will likely switch to healer.

    Remember that the attitude you display in your post is why some players refuse to play healer already. It's got nothing to do with healing design and everything to do with players who act like they're owed something by other players. We're not your servants. We're not employees of SE. We're fellow players allowed to choose what job we want to play just as you choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.
    my apologies but you are misreading the actual intent or simply spreading misinformation. no one is planning on griefing by being only "green dps" we are not joining DF as healers. why cant we just enjoy DPS like everyone else instead of playing our healer main? so making a personal choice NOT to queue as a healer main but as one of the new classes is now considered... "griefing"? and we are punishing our fellow players by playing new jobs?

    good to know. so you will be playing healer then? since your fellow players need you. good to hear. have fun in DawnTrail ^^
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