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    Quote Originally Posted by UnconfirmedCat View Post
    even you, who is complaining about this
    When did I say I was either complaining or against it?
    I'm sharing my thoughts as of why others might say things.
    I've commented many times in this thread of ideas, thoughts and such in support of healers.
    Just that I think that maybe something could've been worded better doesn't mean I'm complaining, it's just a personal opinion.

    All I'm refering to is, if people don't want others come here saying "vote with your money" and "quit playing if you're not happy", maybe shouldn't have called it something that usually entails those two things.
    "Leave garbage out and it will attract flies", sorta situation.
    Ofc not calling this garbage, just an example of how one action leads to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    When did I say I was either complaining or against it?
    I'm sharing my thoughts as of why others might say things.
    I've commented many times in this thread of ideas, thoughts and such in support of healers.
    Just that I might something could've been worded better doesn't mean I'm complaining, it's just a personal opinion.

    All I'm refering to is, if people don't want others come here saying "vote with your money" and "quit playing if you're not happy", maybe shouldn't have called it something that usually entails those two things.
    Leave garbage out and it will attract flies, sorta situation.
    Ofc not calling this garbage, just an example of how one action leads to another.
    Okay, fair enough. I am sorry if my response was more harsh than it should've been, but there are a lot of posts in this thread so it is easy to make the wrong assumption when so many are clearly in bad faith. I still disagree with you though that this should be anything but #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE. ALL CAPS, STRIKE, FFXIV. It's perfect, because it's exactly what grabs people's attention and it's objectively worked based on how big this thread has gotten. I will refer to my response to you though that the people coming in and trying to play semantics games with it being called a "strike" in a video game are deliberately being obtuse. They are not looking to get real responses. It's a distraction and people should stop wasting their time catering to these people if they can't take the time understand what's clearly laid out in the very first post. Additionally, the people saying this isn't a "strike" are flat out wrong. If we're going to play the silly word game, then it would be a boycott to stop subbing to the game entirely. A strike is simply collective action to refuse to do something at its core. It doesn't have to be associated with a business losing money or anything like that. Those are things people attach to the definition because they don't know about the word in any context outside of workers striking IRL. And even if the word was strictly that, it doesn't make a difference. We use the word, and people understand IMMEDIATELY what is going on, and that's all that matters. Furthermore, it's extra amusing since classes in FFXIV are called "jobs" so refusing to play a "job" in FFXIV being a "strike" is pretty poetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnconfirmedCat View Post
    it's extra amusing since classes in FFXIV are called "jobs" so refusing to play a "job" in FFXIV being a "strike" is pretty poetic.
    Haha, you know, I've never thought about that. Gave me a chuckle.
    Also, apology accepted.
    I understand that people are very passionate over all this and that can cloud ones better judgement in moments. So no hard feelings.
    And I also know that I can be quite on point and some times even blunt when talking which can give the wrong impressions.
    I'm not the best of explaining things, but I do try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Haha, you know, I've never thought about that. Gave me a chuckle.
    Also, apology accepted.
    I understand that people are very passionate over all this and that can cloud ones better judgement in moments.
    And I also know that I can be quite on point and some times even blunt when talking which can give the wrong impressions from time to time.
    I'm not the best of explaining things, but I do try.
    At least you're making an attempt. That's worth something in and of itself, that's what I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because we are doing this strike/protest/whatever you want to call it because our mountains of feedback has already been ignored

    We are done giving feedback, they won’t read it anyway
    Just stop, my friend.

    It's enough, okay? I get it. I do. But, please. It's not worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    Just stop, my friend.

    It's enough, okay? I get it. I do. But, please. It's not worth it.
    Nah they are welcome to waste all their posts trying to derail this I am going to continue to reaffirm that I did everything the developers wanted me to do to express my dissatisfaction with healers before I got to this point

    If they read my posts then read that persons posts and they want to side with her that’s their prerogative, I can’t change everyone’s mind
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because we are doing this strike/protest/whatever you want to call it because our mountains of feedback has already been ignored

    We are done giving feedback, they won’t read it anyway
    Nothing good ever comes from engaging with someone who clearly doesn't want to engage respectfully, so I agree with Odinel, better to just let them rage at the wall and just not engage.

    The fact that one of their early posts included "Play a better job" should've told people what they're here for already, and it's not respectful discussion.
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