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  1. #3131
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    Rehayem's Avatar
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    So i take it unsubscribing isn't an option for this healer strike? I'm sure they'll pay attention if a large portion of healers all collectively unsub and stop playing and go support a different game.

    Namely the people throwing this protest around, please unsub and go play something else.
    This goes back to another point I made earlier, but unsubscribing doesn't change the issue at hand. All SE will see is -1 customer, while switching voluntarily from healer to any other job becomes -1 healer, +1 tank/dps. Then again, people want to play FFXIV, but healer role is in dire need of fixing, whatever it takes.
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  2. #3132
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    Sani2341's Avatar
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Al4th View Post
    Hi. I'm a Japanese player.
    I'm not perfect at speaking English, so I'm using a translation tool. Sorry if the sentences are incorrect.
    Also, please understand that this is my personal opinion, not the consensus of Japanese healers.

    First of all, when I looked at the JP forum, I was very surprised to see so many complaints about healers.
    Of course, I'm not saying that there are no complaints, but the problem discussed in Japan is mainly that "the identity of the four healer jobs is lost."
    I don't see many complaints about WAR and PLD having separate healing abilities and therefore losing the role of healers.
    (There are sometimes complaints that spamming one attack skill is boring, but it doesn't seem to be considered such a big problem)

    Hardcore players are always thinking about optimizing oGCD heals in Extreme, Savage, and Ultimate, and using the GCD gained by doing so for as many attacks as possible to ensure that they can defeat the enemy.
    I also play Extreme, Savage, and Ultimate, and I generally agree with hardcore players.

    Also, some players fear failure if the role of healer becomes important. This is a tendency often seen in people who play DF Roulette casually, and it is a mindset that many Japanese people have.
    Such people have no qualms about spending GCD on healing, and always prioritize fully filling other players' health. They believe that by doing so, they are fulfilling their role as a healer.
    Therefore, I feel that there are few Japanese players who think that "healer's job is being taken away."

    However, few people deny the issue raised here. If there is content that increases the difficulty of healing and makes the healer role more rewarding, there are players who want to try it.
    It has to be content that is difficult for any healer job. For example, there was a time when there was a widespread tendency not to want to use WHM in RF or PF because AST's Macro Cosmos is most effective in the third circle (Savage), but I don't think that's a good thing. I don't want to see healer jobs that can't be performed well eliminated due to the individual characteristics of the healer job.
    If these problems are solved, I would like the mechanism to make the healer role more rewarding, and I feel the same way.

    Sorry if it's hard to read.
    Thank you.
    First of, thanks for taking the extra effort to reach out to us across the language barrier.

    It is interesting to see your opinion on this as well as your take on the Japanese Community and their stance on this topic.

    And I for one do agree on that we should not neglect the fact that Healers should both feel distinct from each other in their gameplay, while also being close enough to each other in over all capabilities they are not a hinderance in any fight compared to bringing any other healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

  3. #3133
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    Y2K21's Avatar
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    Stellan Djt-dolja
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    This goes back to another point I made earlier, but unsubscribing doesn't change the issue at hand. All SE will see is -1 customer, while switching voluntarily from healer to any other job becomes -1 healer, +1 tank/dps. Then again, people want to play FFXIV, but healer role is in dire need of fixing, whatever it takes.
    "Wow, people really must want to play the new DPS classes" - Square Enix.

    There has to be a white line somewhere.
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  4. #3134
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    Bellsong's Avatar
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    So i take it unsubscribing isn't an option for this healer strike? I'm sure they'll pay attention if a large portion of healers all collectively unsub and stop playing and go support a different game.

    Namely the people throwing this protest around, please unsub and go play something else.
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  5. #3135
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    There has to be a white line somewhere.
    If you can't see the white line, that just means you can't Esuna it.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  6. #3136
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    Stellan Djt-dolja
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    If you can't see the white line, that just means you can't Esuna it.
    Which means you cant stun it either. Darn.
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  7. #3137
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhoxz View Post
    Here's a wild idea. If someone makes (a big) mistake, the group wipes. Yes even in a dungeon, not every situation should be recoverable.
    Man, now I'm sad. I don't even remember when I last had a full dungeon wipe. They used to be commonplace when I started playing this game.
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  8. #3138
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    Aurelia Leguinn
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    Sargatanas
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    This goes back to another point I made earlier, but unsubscribing doesn't change the issue at hand. All SE will see is -1 customer, while switching voluntarily from healer to any other job becomes -1 healer, +1 tank/dps. Then again, people want to play FFXIV, but healer role is in dire need of fixing, whatever it takes.
    Square has ignored healers since last 5 years almost. It is no surprise that they operate on a very textbook corporate mentality where they will only react once their "numbers" take a certain dip. I know unsubbing is a very crude method of getting a point across, especially since more people join the fray with every new expansion while being completely oblivious of core issues. But, at this point? What can you do.
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  9. #3139
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitaldoll View Post
    Square has ignored healers since last 5 years almost. It is no surprise that they operate on a very textbook corporate mentality where they will only react once their "numbers" take a certain dip. I know unsubbing is a very crude method of getting a point across, especially since more people join the fray with every new expansion while being completely oblivious of core issues. But, at this point? What can you do.
    What can I do? Personally, I enjoy other aspects of the game, like crafting/gathering. The game doesn't revolve entirely around battle content, and if I do that, I usually play tank/dps anyway. I like playing all jobs, even if healers are borderline lazy design.
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  10. #3140
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Man, now I'm sad. I don't even remember when I last had a full dungeon wipe. They used to be commonplace when I started playing this game.
    I got two wipes from two different healers while leveling my Ninja in Stone Vigil earlier this year. Healer just simply was out of it/ not paying attention. It takes a REALLY bad healer to wipe, and also a lower level dungeon given the higher level ones are too easy.
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