#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rekh]

Signed. Will join PF parties listed for that week or two before I go back to the lands between.

[Pandurah]

Feels like most of the tone-deaf suggestions and criticisms of the healer strike come from people who just weren't around before Shadowbringers. So if you are here since/post Shadowbringers and being critical and dismissive, well, without trying to sound condescending or belittling; you just don't know any different. You didn't know what it was like before healer gameplay was diluted, so it's more difficult for people to really grasp what it is people are truly talking about. And it's not just healers that were reduced to rubble for ShB, but we were already dealing with losses (not simple changes) coming in from Stormblood, from Heavensward.

The biggest issue I've seen is that there's so much division amongst the player base. Gleefully watching others have a bad time with something we're all spending money on, it's kinda sick and incredibly pathetic. I want to see my fellow WoLs happy... not displeased, not angry, not at each other's throats. Why take so much joy in seeing others' jobs get decimated? It's a bizarre stance to be in, and honestly, it feels like toxic moba mentality that's tainted people.

[KitiaraIornsight]

Feels like most of the tone-deaf suggestions and criticisms of the healer strike come from people who just weren't around before Shadowbringers. So if you are here since/post Shadowbringers and being critical and dismissive, well, without trying to sound condescending or belittling; you just don't know any different. You didn't know what it was like before healer gameplay was diluted, so it's more difficult for people to really grasp what it is people are truly talking about. And it's not just healers that were reduced to rubble for ShB, but we were already dealing with losses (not simple changes) coming in from Stormblood, from Heavensward.

The biggest issue I've seen is that there's so much division amongst the player base. Gleefully watching others have a bad time with something we're all spending money on, it's kinda sick and incredibly pathetic. I want to see my fellow WoLs happy... not displeased, not angry, not at each other's throats. Why take so much joy in seeing others' jobs get decimated? It's a bizarre stance to be in, and honestly, it feels like toxic moba mentality that's tainted people.

Wrong.... many of us who are against this strike have actually played the game much longer... since beta or ARR or even HW. I played WHM in ARR, HW and Stormblood. I have a video on my youtube page highlighting how proper stance dancing works from when I was teaching a sprout healer how to do it. I'm glad stance dancing is no longer a thing. I enjoy the PISS out of sage that I have played it more than any of my other jobs I tend to touch. I'm not gleefully watching you have a bad time with something. If you are unhappy then healer is not for you at this point, because you are in fact a minority.

[Pandurah]

snip snap

Idk, many of us also started in ARR/HW and are unhappy. In fact, I've seen more vets in support than against. It's a shame that you've seen how healing has evolved and are happy with the result. It's about the amount of other things we could do when healing/shielding wasn't needed, not just stance dancing lol. But hey, enjoy your role!

[KageTokage]

Wrong.... many of us who are against this strike have actually played the game much longer... since beta or ARR or even HW. I played WHM in ARR, HW and Stormblood. I have a video on my youtube page highlighting how proper stance dancing works from when I was teaching a sprout healer how to do it. I'm glad stance dancing is no longer a thing. I enjoy the PISS out of sage that I have played it more than any of my other jobs I tend to touch. I'm not gleefully watching you have a bad time with something. If you are unhappy then healer is not for you at this point, because you are in fact a minority.

There isn't really any way to quantify how many are/aren't actually okay with the state of healers considering that the "majority" do not visit this forum at all.

I've largely seen more negativity in regards to the people who've actually responded to the whole healer strike debacle, though.

[Sani2341]

And it's not just healers that were reduced to rubble for ShB, but we were already dealing with losses (not simple changes) coming in from Stormblood, from Heavensward..

Yeah... After seeing the argument 'You healers asked for this' in some of the discourse sorounding this, I did go for a little dig into the depths of the forums. Didn't find any threads asking for less DPS option. But turns out, these same complaints of 'can we please have our DPS buttons back' actually started in SB already in threads like this:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...039-Healer-DPS

[Ah_Tom_Boh]

+1 #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[NicoKirito]

I mean you can literally check. But you don't have to do savage or ultimate content to have an opinion on this issue. Gatekeeping does not negate the points a person makes, their reasoning, or their experience (regardless of what it may be). Just imagine how silly that would be. "Uhhh, you can't comment on this because you haven't done Utimate!" "Okay, let me get my friend who does Ultimate to say the same thing, now what are you going to do?" You're just setting yourself up to get dunked on, 2bh.

I did check and definitely seen majority of those complaining don't do difficult content. I know from experience that healing isn't that easy. In fact most of the healers in the community don't even heal when they should be. For example, when I was progging p12s last year before echo came out. I found white mages dropping asylum when no damage was going out then we were dying to the next bleed aoe cause the whm didn't have anything to help heal us. Then they went into the balance discord to cry about the sage and make fun of the sage for not healing. When the balance mentors asked for logs to review they started roasting the whm because they were the ones not healing.

So yes, if you aren't doing difficult content and want to complain about healing being easy then go do that and let us know how easy it is then.

I understand that there are some really great healers but that's about a handful and like I said, from what I am seeing. These healers crying don't even do difficult content. Perhaps they don't even know that there are savages and ultimates. Perhaps we should take them in there and see if it's just as easy as they think it is. Let's talk about dsr for example.....healers are letting people die at tank busters and aoe's in phase 1! Go into pf and find out.

[Rekh]

I did check and definitely seen majority of those complaining don't do difficult content. I know from experience that healing isn't that easy. In fact most of the healers in the community don't even heal when they should be. For example, when I was progging p12s last year before echo came out. I found white mages dropping asylum when no damage was going out then we were dying to the next bleed aoe cause the whm didn't have anything to help heal us. Then they went into the balance discord to cry about the sage and make fun of the sage for not healing. When the balance mentors asked for logs to review they started roasting the whm because they were the ones not healing.

So yes, if you aren't doing difficult content and want to complain about healing being easy then go do that and let us know how easy it is then.

I understand that there are some really great healers but that's about a handful and like I said, from what I am seeing. These healers crying don't even do difficult content. Perhaps they don't even know that there are savages and ultimates. Perhaps we should take them in there and see if it's just as easy as they think it is. Let's talk about dsr for example.....healers are letting people die at tank busters and aoe's in phase 1! Go into pf and find out.

Healers didn't faint in normal or "savage/ultimate" content before shadowbringer's kidergarten changes. You'll be fine.

[Edmund_Blackadder]

I did check and definitely seen majority of those complaining don't do difficult content. I know from experience that healing isn't that easy. In fact most of the healers in the community don't even heal when they should be. For example, when I was progging p12s last year before echo came out. I found white mages dropping asylum when no damage was going out then we were dying to the next bleed aoe cause the whm didn't have anything to help heal us. Then they went into the balance discord to cry about the sage and make fun of the sage for not healing. When the balance mentors asked for logs to review they started roasting the whm because they were the ones not healing.

So yes, if you aren't doing difficult content and want to complain about healing being easy then go do that and let us know how easy it is then.

I understand that there are some really great healers but that's about a handful and like I said, from what I am seeing. These healers crying don't even do difficult content. Perhaps they don't even know that there are savages and ultimates. Perhaps we should take them in there and see if it's just as easy as they think it is. Let's talk about dsr for example.....healers are letting people die at tank busters and aoe's in phase 1! Go into pf and find out.

Except this is not about "difficulty of content". If that is all you have managed to gather from 435 pages of discourse, I fear you have either not seriously read and examined the concerns the healer player base have or the issues that have been identified - some which were identified in 2018 and 2022...