#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[SenorPatty]

So far in his video he says:
- Yoshi P promises individuality therefore there will be
- Taking WAR's bloodwhetting would strip it out of its individuality, so SE must balance around it
- He doesn't care that dungeons can be cleared without healers, because (apparently) high end content isn't affected
- You signed up as healer, therefore you shouldn't expect a bigger DPS rotation like actual DPS roles; however he still finds it valid to ask for more, but it's still not your job to DPS more
- If you, as healer, want a full-on rotation, go play DPS
- He agrees Cleric Stance was great and rewarding
- Just because TOP was cleared without healers doesn't mean it's valid
- Healers need to be ready to heal when necessary, and their rotation should remain basic
- "The individuality is the way you play the job and how each functions differently between each of them"
- He doesn't agree casual content (aka dungeons) should have any heals check because he doesn't want to feel any pressure because he just wants to get in and get out. Having heal checks in casual content will cause people to fail said content
- "Healers that complain about this don't do that content that's actually hard" timestamp
- You need to get into high end content to see actual healing stuff
- "This person (referring to Gemina) has never played in a static that's high end because people will work together to reduce the amount of healing needed"
- He argues if they reduce oGCD heals and add more needed healing, people will get annoyed they need to stop and cast heal because you'll be barraged by mechanics
- FFXIV was never meant to be designed where lots of heals are needed (one comment in his chat says "they want wow type of healing")
- Because people always tried to sneak more damage in, SE essentially started moving away from heals to mitigation based system
- He reiterates that healers had more stuff to do back in ARR, HW and SB (aside from Cleric Stance, SCH's Shadow Flare, Miasma 2, WHM's Aero 2, etc)
- He compared WoW and FFXIV to be in similar in terms of raiding, but not so much in casual content. If you want to be a healer that heals more, you should play a MMO that provides that instead of FFXIV
- He admits himself that if he had a WAR in his savage party, he didn't feel needed as a healer, any other tank was ok
- "I go into healer with the mindset I don't wanna heal" timestamp

I stopped at hour 1:06 because I got tired, but here are some snippits that caught my attention. In the last one it sounds like he should switch to DPS if he wanna DPS more.

Amazing. Simply amazing.

And so to further sum-up: Yoshi-P doesn't care that you want to feel engaged as a healer, regardless of content difficulty. You will play according to his game philosophy about healers and that's the end of that.

I guess, well, it's not all that surprising for devs to reach the pinnacle of "what I want for you" vs "what we actually want" but it's just more striking that two expansions worth of suggestions and examples seem like nothing more wind whistling through grass for Yoshi-P.

[Deevo]

There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER.
It's funny because healing in casual content actually used to be far more involved, and healers used to be far more complex but everyone complained about it being too hard, so square changed them to be easier and now people are complaining that it's too easy.

[Kes13a]

Amazing. Simply amazing.

And so to further sum-up: Yoshi-P doesn't care that you want to feel engaged as a healer, regardless of content difficulty. You will play according to his game philosophy about healers and that's the end of that.

I guess, well, it's not all that surprising for devs to reach the pinnacle of "what I want for you" vs "what we actually want" but it's just more striking that two expansions worth of suggestions and examples seem like nothing more wind whistling through grass for Yoshi-P.

thing is, according to something from a while back, Yoshi P expects us to heal, we are not meant to spew out damage

which is fine, since I would rather heal anyway. but what do we heal? the boss or mobs are usually the only things that need it.

[Evergrey]

I support the strike. Healers abilitys should be built into a damage rotation, with big party wide healing to make them thier own jobs.

Idunno if healing abilities should be built into a damage rotation.
Healing is more or less a reaction thing for when needed.
If they were put into a rotation it's either gonna become a lot of unneeded over heals simply so one can focus on the rotation.
Or a rotation would have to be cut short because the healer have to react to something that's not part of the current rotation being pressed.

Better to leave the healing spells outside of a rotation so healers can use them when its needed.
Instead give a damage rotation that wouldn't get interrupted if the healer has to cast a healing mid-rotation.

[TheDruidOcelot]

snip?

honey you know that games are supposed to be fun no matter what tier of gameplay you're in, right?

or does the fact that i run coils MiNe for fun not count?

also ya know, if you're checking the site for TOS-violating parsers, that not everyone parses? I certainly don't.

[EusisLandale]

There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER. You guys know we can see that, right?

Braindead, not easy. But sure, you just also have to ignore the people doing higher content saying the exact same thing to have a point.

[ForteNightshade]

Trying to explain the healer role's issues to the general community has been an exercise in frustration. Therefore, I will choose to adopt a "show, don't tell" method starting in DT.

I will start playing tank more often and invalidate as many healers as I can and make all of them as bored as possible so they intimately understand what the issues of the healer role are.

This game has done a miraculously job of convincing the general playerbase they need to heal. It never ceases to amaze me when I've left DPS low for a short spell or simply let regens tick everyone up and I either have a panic co-healer spamming Medica or have been outright told "where are the healz!!!!" Far too many players see their HP isn't near full and think the next raidwide will insta-kill them despite it very obviously tickling at best. They simply don't pay attention to the actual damage numbers or assume everything hurts way more than it does. Which, again, downright baffles me.

On the subject of tanking, I remember when EW launched, I did the Warrior nonsense and solo'd Hermis from like 55%. It really irks people but hey, I was curious back then if I could legit pull it off--not yet realizing how hilariously easy it was. Heck, I've had healers whine a little (including friends) because "Warrior really don't need heals..." Maybe we've finally reached the point where even average players have noticed how irrelevant healers have become.

[Reinha]

There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER. You guys know we can see that, right?

Hey, can you point me to endgame content where I need to cast more GCD heals than in low level dungeons? Thanks in advance.

[Rithy255]

There are an alarming amount of people on this thread talking about the game being too easy while literally never stepping foot in any form of endgame content EVER. You guys know we can see that, right?

Too bad I don't usually play on this character anymore.
I don't think you should have to run hardcore content just for your job to serve a purpose. Even in "easy dungeon" content or whatever healers should have a reason to exist.

[Tokimiya]

+1 I'll give my support as well. No healing from me or my dynamis alt