#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Taranok]

Will believe when I see it.

It may be good but it may as well just be a PR move to save face due to the bad reception of DT changes

It's also something of: What does this mean? Personally, every class should be extremely simple to play when every fight is extremely complicated compared to what came before, down to and including dungeons. Stormblood got away with extremely complicated classes because the fights were extremely simple and had enough wiggle room for sloppy play (which is part of why SB had the best fights outright in my opinion.) Despite this, I'm very happy the jank has been removed, and I really don't want class individuality to come back in the form of both jank and skill floors.

So, is improving individuality removing addle/feint so only rphys have that effect? Is it trimming back the ridiculous amount of medica 1s healers have? Is it making the game like HW again? It could mean so, so much.

[Aravell]

Like, what's basically happening here is people making a bunch of reservations at a restauraunt and paying in advance, and then just not showing up. Sure, the restaurant may look empty, but...you've already paid for the food. The restaurant isn't actually losing anything.

You don't understand the goal here. We're not trying to hit the company in their wallet, we're trying to hit the dev team in their metrics.

Even if only a thousand people out of hundreds of thousands join, that's still a sizable dip in their healer metrics of a thousand people. They'll see that and then they'll start asking why it's happening, that is the goal here.

[Supersnow845]

There has already been a video put out by one of the media tour invitees about this and he mostly agrees with our points

If you can’t get the people you invited to a private event because they are healer mains to be excited about healers who are you trying to impress

[GrimGale]

I have to admit It's going to be hard to for me to avoid playing healer. Mostly because I am always silently judging the healer in the party and I loathe cure spammers or players that outright don't do anything and just stand still. I' d rather do it myself.

On the other hand I also want to do the no healer party thing.

[PercibelTheren]

I have to admit It's going to be hard to for me to avoid playing healer. Mostly because I am always silently judging the healer in the party and I loathe cure spammers or players that outright don't do anything and just stand still. I' d rather do it myself.

On the other hand I also want to do the no healer party thing.

Oh man, I feel this one. I don't think I'm a particularly good healer, just good enough to keep the party alive most of the time. But so often, when I queue into content as a DPS, at least one of the healers has zero clue what they're doing, Medica II spammers included. Not using Esuna to remove Doom in Dun Scaith, not healing anyone besides the tank (sometimes not even the tank), never using Raise... It's suffering. Healing genuinely is not hard, how are these people so clueless?

[Jojoya]

Oh man, I feel this one. I don't think I'm a particularly good healer, just good enough to keep the party alive most of the time. But so often, when I queue into content as a DPS, at least one of the healers has zero clue what they're doing, Medica II spammers included. Not using Esuna to remove Doom in Dun Scaith, not healing anyone besides the tank (sometimes not even the tank), never using Raise... It's suffering. Healing genuinely is not hard, how are these people so clueless?

It's been stated several times in this thread in addition to other places that healers aren't needed to clear content.

Since healers aren't needed to clear content, then there's no reason to learn how to heal. They can level up healing jobs by just dealing damage for the sake of achievements if they want.

But some noticed that healers are still needed for Duty Finder to form parties even though they aren't needed to clear the content. They choose to queue as healer for the fast queue and then can be lazy on their free ride to loot. After all someone has to queue for the useless role, might as well be them.

And thus the swarm of healers, good and bad, appeared out of the depths to replace the striking healers when Dawntrail released...

[MisterNublet]

But some noticed that healers are still needed for Duty Finder to form parties even though they aren't needed to clear the content. They choose to queue as healer for the fast queue and then can be lazy on their free ride to loot. After all someone has to queue for the useless role, might as well be them.

And thus the swarm of healers, good and bad, appeared out of the depths to replace the striking healers when Dawntrail released...

That is what votekick is for, and I intend to use it on every healer expecting a free ride.

Not that I will have many opportunities to do so, since I'll be running war/pld with three dps buddies for all of the msq. Instant que times and faster dungeons clears!

[OliviaLugria]

This is, I think, a nasty side effect of parsing and number chasing. Certain people don't just want viable, they want OPTIMAL. The moment a job is 1% behind all the others, people will be mad if you want to play it, even if it's perfectly possible to clear with it.

That being said, I would love if they made each healer different with varied levels of complexity. Mind you, I also don't think more complex should equal better. Having fun with a complex job should be its own reward, imo.

It's definitely tricky. You don't want that one job that is overly complex to the point that players think they should be rewarded for it. (I think that sparked a bit of the summoner redesign.)

Still, having distinct healing styles would go a long way to alleviating the problem. They have an inkling of this, but the design team gave all of them to many similar/redundant skills that covers up that small bit if uniqueness.

[PercibelTheren]

It's definitely tricky. You don't want that one job that is overly complex to the point that players think they should be rewarded for it. (I think that sparked a bit of the summoner redesign.)

Still, having distinct healing styles would go a long way to alleviating the problem. They have an inkling of this, but the design team gave all of them to many similar/redundant skills that covers up that small bit if uniqueness.

Yes! I would love if different jobs within the same role had different purposes. Let WHM be the "big instant heals" healer and AST be the "mostly HoT and delayed healer", for example. Not to the point that one of them is not viable in certain content, but to the point that jobs don't constantly step on each other's toes.