Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
I mean when a lot of casuals struggle to correctly press 1-2-3 or 1-2 let alone make use of defensive cooldowns as a tank, does this change really affect their "playstyle"?
Nice strawman.

Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
While in a vacuum, I'd say no. However, with the current landscape, yes.

Many of those same players or players with a similar mindset have demanded changes which negatively impact the enjoyment for raiders or even midcore players. Bard and Summoner have been absolutely gutted from their heydays due to casual players whining they were too complicated. Dark Knight went through several iterations due to casual players refusing to play the easier tanks in Heavensward. Machinist has been a hot mess for years when they abandoned the much beloved ammo system. All of these players were told, on this very forum even, to simply "get over it." That "the majority of players prefer the new version!"

To those players now complaining their favourite job was neutered, I say, welcome to the other side of that argument. Frustrating, isn't it?
While I can't speak for everyone who had an opinion about rotations back then, I am assuming that you are being cheeky in how you are referring to me and my misgivings about having PLD changed, yes?

If so, you are preaching to the choir and I played an unhealthy amount of DRK and MCH during SB before they were gutted in Shadowbringers and I was not (and am still not) happy with the removal of Gauss Barrel/heat management nor am I happy with the removal of Dark Arts.
While I can't say I have any experience playing BRD or pre-EW SMN, but even if I do find EW SMN chill and fun, I'm not satisfied that previous mains saw their job deleted and replaced either.

So we're on the same side of being grumpy at SE for mucking up our jobs, maybe?

Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
The rotation basically hasn't changed other than being frontloaded and Goring Blade feeling like complete ass to push now.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this point, I think. I never used to drop atonements outside of situations where I had to move away from the boss for a GCD or two and need to refresh goring blade.

6.2 PLD: Goring Blade Combo -> Atonement Combo -> Goring Blade Combo -> Magic Combo -> Atonement -> Repeat
6.3 PLD: Burst -> Atonement filler x2.5ish -> Repeat burst

They feel like night and day to me.