Quote Originally Posted by esra01 View Post
Then let me try answering those 2 questions. Plus another one since that is a question asked to me by someone else
I wasn't necessary looking for an answer, just trying to demonstrate how cubbersome and niche it would be to gain one use of DV.
If you really want to strech it, you can 1 2 3, Atonement*3 and 1 2 before having to Holy spirit, which lasts 20 seconds top.

In any cases, if you really wanted to save a use, you would need to be able to use Divine Veil in that 20 second window, which is incredibly niche.
Yes, it happens as you say with P8SP2, but that's one case, it doesn't apply everywhere.

Even then, PLD still has PoA has extra mitigation, it's not like it was behind other tanks.
It might even be why SQEX decided to change it, easier to use and avoid extra uses on specific content which would throw the balance of said content.

Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
Agree to disagree. That is exactly how an MMO should work. For me it's a team effort.
Here's the thing:
Raiding is already coordinating your party movement, raidbuff and mitigation.
Having to proc Divine Veil isn't a team effort, it's a responsibility.

Would you agree to restore pacification on WAR and old Living Dead, because those tanks lacks "team effort" abilities?
No, because it's ridiculous to have a tool which is someone else's responsibility.