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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's not getting more attention because it's not worth discussing again.
    Thread: Feature request DPS check for PS players
    Thread: In Defence of DPS meters.
    Thread: PS4 damage meters
    Thread: FXIV parser/DPS meter
    Thread: PS4 Players want usable parsers
    Thread: DPS meter similar to Aggro meter.
    Thread: DPS meter / Connection info + FPS / Friend list
    Thread: Damage meters for the PS4 please.
    Thread: DPS Gauge, non number generated
    Thread: Why not a dps tracker in UI?
    Thread: DPS reader on PS4
    Thread: Because everyone Loves Parsers
    That's just the results from the UI/UX forum. There are another seven pages of results from the General forum.

    The dev stance is clear: Yoshi-P doesn't want to add this in game. Even if it's "optional" and "personal", the players will make it mandatory and require people to share their numbers. See this translation of a Feb 2020 broadcast:
    If there's a lot of threads on the topic, the answer to that isn't "just give up".

    SE also didn't want to have a right click report option.
    And they also didn't want to have "mercenaries"/no-GC queuing for frontlines.
    And they also didn't want summoners to have more than egis.

    And there's so, so many things that SE didn't want to do at first, but persistent player feedback made them realize players care about it and it wasn't just a trivial feature to blow off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    This is not sufficient at all and never will be
    Its really no different from "that program" and its pretty close to the actual parse. They are never going to give us an in game parser for honestly really good reasons. I don't have a problem with parsers and I think the program people use is perfectly fine, but I have seen how negatively they impact end game in other MMO's. SSS is fine, you don't actually need a parser for this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Its really no different from "that program" and its pretty close to the actual parse. They are never going to give us an in game parser for honestly really good reasons. I don't have a problem with parsers and I think the program people use is perfectly fine, but I have seen how negatively they impact end game in other MMO's. SSS is fine, you don't actually need a parser for this game.
    The fact that it's a dummy indicates that it's nowhere near anything "close to an actual parse". And there are no good reasons to not have parsers in game
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    The fact that it's a dummy indicates that it's nowhere near anything "close to an actual parse". And there are no good reasons to not have parsers in game
    SSS parses are completely valid and there are more than enough reasons to not have an in game parser. 100% if they added one in the game PF's would demand a certain dps number and would put even more stigma on certain jobs for no reason whatsoever. Its already bad enough with people in PF putting ilvl requirements waaaaay above the ilvl even needed for fights. The last thing we need is people setting dps requirements that would 100% be higher than the needed dps to clear or people getting kicked from old dungeons because they dare not to keep up with the overgeared player. I've seen more than my fair share of crap from toxic people in WoW. We don't need that here, especially since a parser is really not necessary in this game.

    Then again, I just realized I'm arguing with the same person who thinks MCH should remain trash because its "easy" to play, so arguing with you is a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    SSS parses are completely valid and there are more than enough reasons to not have an in game parser. 100% if they added one in the game PF's would demand a certain dps number and would put even more stigma on certain jobs for no reason whatsoever. Its already bad enough with people in PF putting ilvl requirements waaaaay above the ilvl even needed for fights. The last thing we need is people setting dps requirements that would 100% be higher than the needed dps to clear or people getting kicked from old dungeons because they dare not to keep up with the overgeared player. I've seen more than my fair share of crap from toxic people in WoW. We don't need that here, especially since a parser is really not necessary in this game.

    Then again, I just realized I'm arguing with the same person who thinks MCH should remain trash because its "easy" to play, so arguing with you is a waste of time.
    Just saying something doesmt make it so. People already kick bads based on fflogs alone. Demanding competency and not being a waste of a slot isn't and never will be toxic. Also way to put words in my mouth, MCH should be lowest alomg with SMN yes, but higher than what it currently is, but hey ignoring facts is something that someone with no ground to stand on does
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    dps tracker

    don't hold your breath waiting for this its not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Just saying something doesmt make it so. People already kick bads based on fflogs alone. Demanding competency and not being a waste of a slot isn't and never will be toxic. Also way to put words in my mouth, MCH should be lowest alomg with SMN yes, but higher than what it currently is, but hey ignoring facts is something that someone with no ground to stand on does
    History makes it so. You've clearly never played other MMO's.

    And your MCH/SMN takes are still awful nor did I put words in your mouth. You straight up said because they are simple they should do bad dps, which is objectively stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    History makes it so. You've clearly never played other MMO's.

    And your MCH/SMN takes are still awful nor did I put words in your mouth. You straight up said because they are simple they should do bad dps, which is objectively stupid.
    I have, and toxicity isn't expecting people to perform in situations where they should. What's actually toxic is being a waste of a slot. And yes you did put words in my mouth, MCH wouldn't be trash if proper balance was implemented, it would just be the worst DPS along with SMN, there's a distinct difference, and if you can't comprehend that speaks more about you than me. Dismissed
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I have, and toxicity isn't expecting people to perform in situations where they should. What's actually toxic is being a waste of a slot. And yes you did put words in my mouth, MCH wouldn't be trash if proper balance was implemented, it would just be the worst DPS along with SMN, there's a distinct difference, and if you can't comprehend that speaks more about you than me. Dismissed
    No, but demanding a dps number way above what is actually necessary is toxic and is extremely common in other MMO's. Its already clear as day you're exactly one of the type of people that would abuse it and why Yoshi will never implement a parser in game. Stop asking for it, cuz it aint happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    No, but demanding a dps number way above what is actually necessary is toxic and is extremely common in other MMO's. Its already clear as day you're exactly one of the type of people that would abuse it and why Yoshi will never implement a parser in game. Stop asking for it, cuz it aint happening.
    Ah nice character attack. Yes, I would remove leeches from parties. I already do
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