So this game has dps checks but we can't talk about our dps in game?

[Kaurhz]

Look, I know you said...



... but then in your next post you go ahead and say this...



... which kind of counters the statement that it is 'irrelevant' because you don't seem to understand that the point he was trying to make is that in early Savage clears, just doing mechanics doesn't suffice, and consistently losing uptime because you're struggling to combine it with doing mechanics correctly will not lead you to a kill until you outgear it or until months later with Echo. It isn't a situation of player A is dying to mechanics while doing good DPS and player B is doing mechanics but bad DPS. It's a situation where player A is doing good dps and doing mechanics while player B is doing mechanics but bad DPS OR player B is dying to mechanics while doing good DPS, leading into a wipe all the same. Both can and NEED to improve, so neither is wanted in a so-called 'clear' party. While it's easy to call out the DPS that's dying, it's not easy or even possible to call out the one doing too low DPS, because damage meters are taboo.

I'm not sure how you managed to arrive to this but I'll bite. I never said that exclusively performing mechanics isn't the only sufficient method but just suggested that potentially sacrificing or foregoing some DPS to ensure players can successfully do the mechanic, be it to see the next mechanics in the encounter or to potentially clear then it's a perfectly logical course to take provided it falls within the constraints of meeting the DPS check. Apparently this wasn't clear enough, and I was addressing it in the particular case of the player in question, that it's a perfectly logical conclusion to arrive at provided they're able to clear the fight doing so. I'm fully aware earlier in progression where people don't have the luxury of gear benefits that situations will be less accommodating for this luxury. But once again, I was addressing it for this particular player and in the general sense...

What is it with this community and jumping from one hyperbole to another in an attempt to try and counter argue. People are evidently already clearing these fights with several people in any given group being grey parsing