Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
The discussion is about GMs not paying enough attention to healers and tanks. The fact of the matter is, no matter how poor the gameplay is for those two roles, they are always going to be more valuable than a dps job in-game. The value comes from the role itself and its place in the game.

Healers in this game have been given the opportunity to correct stupid and blatant mistakes. It is more or less a consequence of a bad player base in general. In any case, I went through FFlogs to check historically how much dps were the healers doing. The top SCH was not out-dpsing the top bard even in Heavensward. They had like 5 different DoTs, healed almost nothing, and still couldn't deal more than a dps that's playing properly. Back then they didn't have rDPS so we can't really check the real raid-contributing dps of a player. As far as I know, bards have raid-wide buffs so the DPS value that is seen is not really the correct one.

Right now in terms of rDPS, healers can achieve around 60-70% of a dps' max rDPS output. For the Oracle of Darkness, the strongest healer (AST) has dealt 64% of the rDPS of the strongest DPS job (Black Mage) and 73% of the rDPS of the weakest DPS job (Machinist).

Healers' dps is not negligible at all. We are achieving that amount of DPS with a 2-button rotation. Obviously, we are a little bit more complex than that. And I think we should be even more complex and allowed to reach 100% of the rDPS of the strongest DPS when we play perfectly well which should be next to impossible but still possible. The skill ceiling needs to be raised.
Why is this always the counter arguement? It's not about numbers for dps skills, it's about COMPLEXITY. We have 1 button that we push in excess, how is this a difficult idea to process?

What if Monk was just Bootshine, Bootshine, Bootshine, Bootshine?

Of if all you did was Full Thrust on Dragoon?

Is that interesting? F**ck no? If the thought appeals to you, please leave the conversation, as you will never convince us otherwise.