FFXIV is too simplistic and bland

[FeliAiko]

No. I meant that the difference in you changing your character now would be that we seen your level 80.

Yes, that's what hindsight means, which is why I brought it up to begin with.

You would only know this in hindsight, because my exchanges with you have been under my registered main.

With the OP we don't have that. We just have a bunch of post history proving they haven't played anything past 25.

I doubt you went through an entire 900+ post history, stretching back 3 years (which would indicate OP having been subbed for at least that long as you cannot make posts on OF if unsubbed), to confirm if they only have a lvl 25 char or not. It's pretty naive to think that someone would continue paying a sub (on and off, or otherwise) just to sit on a lvl25 char and complain about endgame stuff repeatedly during that whole time.

Iscah's point was that OP apparently has a history of making threads/posts like these, in ways to deliberately draw attention so that devs might notice or something. Either way, signs are more likely they're someone that's reached endgame and for whatever reason still plays the game on and off even though they're not fully enamored by it. Those type of players aren't exactly a rare occurrence.

Which still goes back to them posting on a level 25.

Post history is not tied to the player character you were registered on when you made the post, but your SE account.

Anyone can go and say " X is bad " because someone else said it..but heres there difference.. thats ALL they can say. They can't tell you why, how when or how to fix it because they have no expereince with it. And that isn't a debate worth having. That's why OP's level matters. At the end of the day, making this thread with that character should always get called into question. And seeing as his post history proves he knowns nothing it was right for people to question him.

Let me add by saying it really is what he is saying though. He's comparing a completely different mmo to this one.. and he hasn't reach any content that matters for his debates to work. You don't compare like that. This would be different if he had an endgame character and whatnot. But from the looks of it it just looks like he wants XIV to be another game and seeing how he only got to 25 on an account thats older than 2 years.... Why would you take his opinion in?

You haven't actually proven with any credible evidence that OP doesn't have an endgame character, though. All you've gone by is current registered character, and it's already been pointed out by myself and Iscah why trying to go that route is flawed.

[Gameovers]

Yes, that's what hindsight means, which is why I brought it up to begin with.





I doubt you went through an entire 900+ post history, stretching back 3 years (which would indicate OP having been subbed for at least that long as you cannot make posts on OF if unsubbed), to confirm if they only have a lvl 25 char or not. It's pretty naive to think that someone would continue paying a sub (on and off, or otherwise) just to sit on a lvl25 char and complain about endgame stuff repeatedly during that whole time.

Iscah's point was that OP apparently has a history of making threads/posts like these, in ways to deliberately draw attention so that devs might notice or something. Either way, signs are more likely they're someone that's reached endgame and for whatever reason still plays the game on and off even though they're not fully enamored by it. Those type of players aren't exactly a rare occurrence.



Post history is not tied to the player character you were registered on when you made the post, but your SE account.



You haven't actually proven with any credible evidence that OP doesn't have an endgame character, though. All you've gone by is current registered character, and it's already been pointed out by myself and Iscah why trying to go that route is flawed.

Then they should prove it. And post on their main character or account. That's what me and a few others have been saying. And until they do their word is not valid. I also don't need to prove anything. I'm not the one saying the game needs to change based on things I have not done. Again why defend someone who's a known troll? You even agree to this. so why defend him?

To add more detail to this.. .this whole debate we're having proves my earlier point. Had they posted on their endgame character none of this would've came up. You even confirm this. You know people will do this and it'll never stop. And it shouldn't stop. Because your character is all we see.. that and your post history. When your post history already proves you're a troll looking to stur people up you're already losing. And to add to that you only post on a level 25 character? Yeah man you get called out and rightfully so. Thats the issue. If he wants to be taken seriously then he needs to prove it's worth it to be taken seriously. And that's not creating troll topics on a level 25 character. Again. If we let him get away with that then that only lets other people come here and complain about stuff they never did. Like people who complain about endgame yet have never touched it. We don't need more of that.

[Controller]

Then they should prove it. And post on their main character or account. That's what me and a few others have been saying. And until they do their word is not valid. I also don't need to prove anything. I'm not the one saying the game needs to change based on things I have not done. Again why defend someone who's a known troll? You even agree to this. so why defend him?

To add more detail to this.. .this whole debate we're having proves my earlier point. Had they posted on their endgame character none of this would've came up. You even confirm this. You know people will do this and it'll never stop. And it shouldn't stop. Because your character is all we see.. that and your post history. When your post history already proves you're a troll looking to stur people up you're already losing. And to add to that you only post on a level 25 character? Yeah man you get called out and rightfully so. Thats the issue. If he wants to be taken seriously then he needs to prove it's worth it to be taken seriously. And that's not creating troll topics on a level 25 character. Again. If we let him get away with that then that only lets other people come here and complain about stuff they never did. Like people who complain about endgame yet have never touched it. We don't need more of that.

Sadly while I see your point, you're not helping. All both of you are doing is adding more fuel to what is likely a troll post to make people fight over the internet. It's been proven they do this atleast once a month to do excatly what you two are doing. I know it sucks to drop a point if you believe strongly in it.. but you should just let it go. Enjoy the story and get off the forums. You mentioned you're new. WHY ARE YOU HERE?! This place will ruin you!!!