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    Quote Originally Posted by AceofRains View Post
    With an Addition or Geomancer as a Healer, and Beastmaster as a Ranged DPS, they both don’t really need to add new jobs. We know Geomancer is in high demand, and we know a healer is coming next. We know Ranged DPS has only 3 jobs compared to Melee and Caster having 4 (I count Blue Mage as both Caster and All-Rounder.). And we know that Beastmaster is a traditional FF job that is high in demand as well. Beastmaster makes so much sense to give a whip and make it a ranged attacker- which makes even more sense because whips in FF attack with full power from the back row.. They could even invert it to Ninja and have it scale with Strength instead of Dexterity.

    After that, they’ve basically given us every reasonable traditional jobs, and if they wanted to add more they’re free to think more outside the box.

    Personally, after Geomancer and Beastmaster, I really don’t care to see any more jobs added to this game.
    With Yoshi P stating how Bst would make a good limited job, I wouldn't really put all my eggs in that basket just yet, especially with how we just got a physical ranged this expansion.

    A healer and a caster will be coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicBlake View Post
    With Yoshi P stating how Bst would make a good limited job, I wouldn't really put all my eggs in that basket just yet, especially with how we just got a physical ranged this expansion.

    A healer and a caster will be coming.
    Nah I’m gonna bet on it. Very few people actually respond well to the concept of limited jobs, and those of us who actually play Blue Mage more than just to 60 know that it’s not the most broken concept. A limited job is a design choice to test something that they might have thought would not work out, but at this point, Blue Mage is something that should certainly be a part of normal gameplay. Learning spells is just more natural when they can pick them up as they level in the duty finder, and it’s been beyond proven that it is not the solo content that it was intended to be because it can’t do a damn thing without getting its hand held by a party. Imagine being a healer and you get 1 raise every 300 seconds while red mage can chain raise. Limited is not working. Beastmaster does not have the same testing issues that Blue Mage does- not even close. Yoshi said it might be a limited job like a year ago when this community didn’t completely realize what a terrible idea it was. With many people desiring a Ranger class because Bard doesn’t fulfill that fantasy for them, it’s only logical to have Beastmaster fill a kind of “hunter/tamer” role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceofRains View Post
    Nah I’m gonna bet on it. Very few people actually respond well to the concept of limited jobs, and those of us who actually play Blue Mage more than just to 60 know that it’s not the most broken concept. A limited job is a design choice to test something that they might have thought would not work out, but at this point, Blue Mage is something that should certainly be a part of normal gameplay. Learning spells is just more natural when they can pick them up as they level in the duty finder, and it’s been beyond proven that it is not the solo content that it was intended to be because it can’t do a damn thing without getting its hand held by a party. Imagine being a healer and you get 1 raise every 300 seconds while red mage can chain raise. Limited is not working. Beastmaster does not have the same testing issues that Blue Mage does- not even close. Yoshi said it might be a limited job like a year ago when this community didn’t completely realize what a terrible idea it was. With many people desiring a Ranger class because Bard doesn’t fulfill that fantasy for them, it’s only logical to have Beastmaster fill a kind of “hunter/tamer” role.
    Actually, Blue Mage is working great, from a developer standpoint. Just because you don’t enjoy how it works in this game doesn’t mean it hasn’t done well. Pretty much every person you speak to has leveled BLU to 60, or has at least unlocked it. I actually don’t think you can even find an interview where the FFXIV team has said anything but praise for how the class turned out.

    Your dislike is not a universal experience. And while I personally don’t get that hype about the blue mage content, it was by no means a failure. They made side content and almost every player played it, that’s a win for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicBlake View Post
    Actually, Blue Mage is working great, from a developer standpoint. Just because you don’t enjoy how it works in this game doesn’t mean it hasn’t done well. Pretty much every person you speak to has leveled BLU to 60, or has at least unlocked it. I actually don’t think you can even find an interview where the FFXIV team has said anything but praise for how the class turned out.

    Your dislike is not a universal experience. And while I personally don’t get that hype about the blue mage content, it was by no means a failure. They made side content and almost every player played it, that’s a win for them.
    Didn’t say I’m not enjoying it. Clearly my avatar is wearing the BLU mask right now, so I’m definitely playing with it. I’m saying there’s a lot wrong and it’s reasonable to make it a normal job with the others. You assume I dislike it, but I love the job iteration in FFXIV. It’s just impractical to not have it naturally progress the with other jobs, even if it’s ability learning is alternative. I spoke with a friend the other week about it and he refuses to touch the job because limited job is foolish design. I encouraged him to try it because it’s quite fun, but it doesn’t change the fact that it seriously does not deserve to be left out of the others.
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