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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Why not use the first week to gear up and do story, then go broke in savage the next week then? Essentially the same thing as pushing Savage back a week. Unless you just want "first week clears", but then, why not do those at minimum, gearing up while you can throughout the week? No need to rush things if you aren't going for world first afterall.
    Groups going for Week 1/Week 2 kills need crafted gear for at least the fourth fight—sometimes the third, depending. My goals now are Week 1/Week 2 kills because that’s when the content is at its most challenging. So I don’t see why Savage can’t just be released a week after the main patch. They seem to have no issue doing that for the first tier—so people can enjoy the story. What’s the problem with just doing it for every tier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Groups going for Week 1/Week 2 kills need crafted gear for at least the fourth fight—sometimes the third, depending. My goals now are Week 1/Week 2 kills because that’s when the content is at its most challenging. So I don’t see why Savage can’t just be released a week after the main patch. They seem to have no issue doing that for the first tier—so people can enjoy the story. What’s the problem with just doing it for every tier?
    But by week 2, you can have 1-2 tome pieces on top of crafted gear. That weakens the difficulty no? Plus, in terms of the delayed weeks during expansion launches, the capped tome gear is also delayed, so you'd have to delay that too. Plus, isn't the crafted gear thats required for Savage for expansion launches also delayed until that 2nd week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But by week 2, you can have 1-2 tome pieces on top of crafted gear. That weakens the difficulty no? Plus, in terms of the delayed weeks during expansion launches, the capped tome gear is also delayed, so you'd have to delay that too. Plus, isn't the crafted gear thats required for Savage for expansion launches also delayed until that 2nd week?
    There are numerous ways to accommodate that. Delaying Tome/Crafted gear is one of them. In fact, it wouldn't be a bad idea as now people can focus on all the new content at their leisure without having to worry about capping the first week. If they didn't want to do that, simply bumping up the DPS checks of each fight just slightly would fix people having a tome piece, though one i490 piece isn't going to make a big difference. You're going to have full crafted regardless because it's required to kill Shiva. Another solution is simply not making Normal mode a requirement.

    While I'd appreciate not having to mad rush prep, I'd be content simply not having to choose between story and Savage.

    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    First wave means first wave. If you breathe a word about commitments outside of the game, you're not in the running for first wave; those people have already settled those commitments the day the date was announced.
    You know, except during the first tier where they do delay Savage and not only is this not considered an issue but welcomed at all levels. In fact, even World First groups have asked Yoshida directly for this delay to continue. Just because people can adjust or work around their prior commitments doesn't mean they want to. And some can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    There are numerous ways to accommodate that. Delaying Tome/Crafted gear is one of them. In fact, it wouldn't be a bad idea as now people can focus on all the new content at their leisure without having to worry about capping the first week. If they didn't want to do that, simply bumping up the DPS checks of each fight just slightly would fix people having a tome piece, though one i490 piece isn't going to make a big difference. You're going to have full crafted regardless because it's required to kill Shiva. Another solution is simply not making Normal mode a requirement.

    While I'd appreciate not having to mad rush prep, I'd be content simply not having to choose between story and Savage.



    You know, except during the first tier where they do delay Savage and not only is this not considered an issue but welcomed at all levels. In fact, even World First groups have asked Yoshida directly for this delay to continue. Just because people can adjust or work around their prior commitments doesn't mean they want to. And some can't.
    When they manage to release an expansion's worth of content with each patch, then they can consider delaying Savage.

    Until then, let the people that want to race for it week 1 race for it at content drop.

    Everyone else that can't make the time or unwilling to make the time can continue to play at their own, slower pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    When they manage to release an expansion's worth of content with each patch, then they can consider delaying Savage.

    Until then, let the people that want to race for it week 1 race for it at content drop.

    Everyone else that can't make the time or unwilling to make the time can continue to play at their own, slower pace.
    When the expansion releases, we have an entire month before Normal mode releases; two weeks more thereafter for Savage. And this isn't accounting for early access.

    That is almost seven weeks between 5.0 and 5.05, which is more than enough time for "an expansion's worth of content".

    Nevertheless, you're missing the point. The people who want to race are also requesting this delay despite being able to adjust their schedules.
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