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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nabril View Post
    Here's how to stop the exploit- if you have a new job, i.e. a job that has NOT done the MSQ, it could gain exp in NG+. It would be another way to level up jobs without having to grind fates, do beast tibes, do dungeons, etc... Some people like to level up when you're questing. It's not an exploit- it's leveling while questing. "But you'll reach level 80 by doing quests" yeah, that's... the whole point. Nearly everyone who plays this game wants to reach level 80.

    When did questing become exploitative? In every single MMO I've played, when you start a new class, you can restart all of the quests. This game has one character doing all classes which means that all quests can only be used on one class
    You're misinterpreting what I said. Leveling through quests isn't exploitative. Being able to restart all those quests and skip every cut scene to rapidly level with zero effort is, especially when you can simply restart at any moment. You could only do the level 70 ShB quests and restart NG+ afterwards. That offers nearly 11M EXP for doing almost nothing.

    Now before you or anyone suggests making the cut scenes unskippable to prevent. No. That makes the feature obnoxious because not everyone reads at the same speed. What it boils down to is you're arbitrarily making a feature unless enjoyable for its intended audience purely so you can have yet another level alternative when the game has several.

    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    "The game needs to have a little something for everyone..."
    "Regardless of how many people wanted this..."

    Uh... hmm.

    Regardless this is smelling more and more like Lords of Verminion.
    Except no one asked for Lord of Verminion nor did anyone even want it. Now if they designed it to play like Pokemon, it could very easily have been quite popular. Instead, we got the mess of a RTS system they came up with. Regardless, you're making one hell of a reach here comparing the two.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 09-19-2019 at 02:19 AM.
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    Nabril's Avatar
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    Dorion Borstein
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    Halicarnassus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You're misinterpreting what I said. Leveling through quests isn't exploitative. Being able to restart all those quests and skip every cut scene to rapidly level with zero effort is, especially when you can simply restart at any moment. You could only do the level 70 ShB quests and restart NG+ afterwards. That offers nearly 11M EXP for doing almost nothing.
    No, you're misinterpreting what I said. If you have a job who hasn't done the MSQs, you get exp. Obviously, that means that you get exp from each MSQ one time. One. That's once. Not Twice. Once. Per job.

    No exploit. There is no exploit that way.

    Get it?
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nabril View Post
    No, you're misinterpreting what I said. If you have a job who hasn't done the MSQs, you get exp. Obviously, that means that you get exp from each MSQ one time. One. That's once. Not Twice. Once. Per job.

    No exploit. There is no exploit that way.

    Get it?
    Except that involves a separate system to track which job "has done the MSQ" - in a game where you can switch jobs freely and might have equipped five within the course of a single quest.
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