Tank Mitigation vs Tank DPS.

[Ultimatecalibur]

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You misunderstood.

The minimized Tenacity i470 build had 3123 Crit, 2342 Det, 1820 DHit, 1180 Ten and 740 SkS. This lead to a calculated average DpS of 8877.26 with a mitigation from Tenacity of 2.4%.

The maximized Tenacity i470 build had 1806 Crit, 2151 Det, 1160 DHit, 3184 Ten and 783 SkS. This lead to a calculated average DpS of 8646.41 with a mitigation from Tenacity of 8.4%.

[RareItems]

You misunderstood.

The minimized Tenacity i470 build had 3123 Crit, 2342 Det, 1820 DHit, 1180 Ten and 740 SkS. This lead to a calculated average DpS of 8877.26 with a mitigation from Tenacity of 2.4%.

The maximized Tenacity i470 build had 1806 Crit, 2151 Det, 1160 DHit, 3184 Ten and 783 SkS. This lead to a calculated average DpS of 8646.41 with a mitigation from Tenacity of 8.4%.

Wrong. 3184 Tenacity gives you 9.64 Damage increase/Mitigation and Self Heal. The fact that you guys can't even do the calculations right is why your all just blinded with the Direct Hit Meta.

You guys even added Direct Hit on the "Maximized Tenacity" build. Why would someone who maximizes Tenacity waste Direct Hit on any of his slots. The Mnimized Tenacity build also has almost 200 more stat points. Clearly a skewed calculation.

I cringe everytime i see a tank with full direct hit melds on. It pretty much tells me:

1.) Healers are going to be healing more and dpsing less to compensate

2.) The other tank is going to have spam Intervention/Cover/Reprisal/Clemency on that DH Tank therefore dealing less damage than the DH tank.

3.) The DH tank is obviously parsing and using 3rd party apps so don't mess up or here comes the Elitist rampage on chat.

[Ultimatecalibur]

You guys even added Direct Hit on the "Maximized Tenacity" build. Why would someone who maximizes Tenacity waste Direct Hit on any of his slots.

As others said several pieces all ready have the maximum amount of Tenacity on them while others only need 1 Tier VIII Materia to cap Tenacity. The Edengrace Tassets, Edengrace Trousers, Augmented Deepshadow Sollerets, Augmented Deepshadow Bracelet, and Edengrace Ring are all capped on Tenacity and so have 2 free Materia Slots. The Edengrace Earrings, Augmented Deepshadow Necklace and Augmented Deep Shadow Ring all can cap Tenacity with 1 Battledance VIII each leaving one empty slot.

The Mnimized Tenacity build also has almost 200 more stat points. Clearly a skewed calculation.

The gap is actually 121. The secondary stat caps on the highest Tenacity pieces cause the Head, Hands, Ears, Neck and one of the Rings to lose loose out on a total of 85 secondary stat when fully melded with Battledance materia. The remaining 36 secondary stat was from a typo where I post 740 SkS instead of 704 SkS.

[RareItems]

As others said several pieces all ready have the maximum amount of Tenacity on them while others only need 1 Tier VIII Materia to cap Tenacity. The Edengrace Tassets, Edengrace Trousers, Augmented Deepshadow Sollerets, Augmented Deepshadow Bracelet, and Edengrace Ring are all capped on Tenacity and so have 2 free Materia Slots. The Edengrace Earrings, Augmented Deepshadow Necklace and Augmented Deep Shadow Ring all can cap Tenacity with 1 Battledance VIII each leaving on empty slot.



The gap is actually 121. The secondary stat caps on the highest Tenacity pieces cause the Head, Hands, Ears, Neck and one of the Rings to lose loose out on a total of 85 secondary stat when fully melded with Battledance materia. The remaining 36 secondary stat was from a typo where I post 740 SkS instead of 704 SkS.

"704 Skillspeed" "Nothing else to waste a stat on so the Tenacity build dumps it on Direct Hit" Yeah doesn't make sense, just like the rest of the Direct Hit melds on Tank fans xD.

Your trading in 1-3% DPS increase on the parser for Mitigation/Self Heal/Damage. That random Pug Healer you met 10 seconds ago has to carry the slack and heal you harder just because you want to DPS more.

Just now on Eden normal floor 3, i had to heal a Offtank Dark since he's taking so much damage as a PLD since he's taking so much damage. He's so focused on not getting beat by a tank loaded with Tenacity he forgot to mechanics.

[Ultimatecalibur]

"704 Skillspeed" "Nothing else to waste a stat on so the Tenacity build dumps it on Direct Hit" Yeah doesn't make sense, just like the rest of the Direct Hit melds on Tank fans xD.

I'm not really a fan of Direct Hit on Tanks I am just aware that going from 380 Direct Hit to 1160/1820 Direct Hit tends to give biggest DpS increase due to going from a 0% chance of a Direct Hit to a 13%/24% chance.

[RareItems]

I'm not really a fan of Direct Hit on Tanks I am just aware that going from 380 Direct Hit to 1160/1820 Direct Hit tends to give biggest DpS increase due to going from a 0% chance of a Direct Hit to a 13%/24% chance.

you cant even get 1820 Direct Hit.

[Ultimatecalibur]

you cant even get 1820 Direct Hit.

Check the number of materia slots on the new i460 and i470 belts and accessories. In order for raid/tomestone accessories not to be inferior to crafted they now have 2 materia slots. 380 + 12*2*60=1820. And if you meld only Direct Hit into Crafted you can hit 2860.