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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    We are not asking for the whole game to be changed into this raid centered thing. We just want a slight addition to our already tiny piece of pie. And you are delusional if you think people who are screaming "NO! YOU CANT HAVE MORE. ITS ALL MINE" When we are starving for something more while they're drowning in more content than they know what to do with (and freaking brag about it) aren't selfish. It is unbelievably selfish.
    Please tell me in wich endgame PvE content I am drowning.

    Expert roulette, Normal Mode Raid aaaaaaand..?

    Sure I can grind fate ranking, trust level, collect minions and mounts... but so can you raiders and it's just filler while I am waiting for the relic weapon. Especially since most of that stuff is just tied to other content. It's not content wich was created so casuals have something to do at endgame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Please tell me in wich endgame PvE content I am drowning.

    Expert roulette, Normal Mode Raid aaaaaaand..?

    Sure I can grind fate ranking, trust level, collect minions and mounts... but so can you raiders and it's just filler while I am waiting for the relic weapon. Especially since most of that stuff is just tied to other content. It's not content wich was created so casuals have something to do at endgame...
    That filler stuff you mentioned? That is the content you are drowning in. As that is what those of us that ask for a lil more, potentially slightly more challenging endgame content to do keep getting told to go do. It doesn't need to all be Savage and Ultimate tier, but we also don't need 5 leveling dungeons for every expansion either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    That filler stuff you mentioned? That is the content you are drowning in. As that is what those of us that ask for a lil more, potentially slightly more challenging endgame content to do keep getting told to go do. It doesn't need to all be Savage and Ultimate tier, but we also don't need 5 leveling dungeons for every expansion either.
    ^^^^^ this ^^^^^

    You guys have everything that isn't Savage and Ultimate. I would even argue you could do savage, since they lowered the difficulty of them to be more "accessible" to you... Otherwise everything else is made with the casuals in mind so you are able to complete them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    [...] but we also don't need 5 leveling dungeons for every expansion either.
    Okay, I am a bit impressed that you actually found something wich can be thinned out a bit o.ô; I mean the people who like to level alt jobs will not be thaat happy I guess, but they will survive it.

    So less leveling dungeons? And maybe less Fates? Is that the content wich should be reduced so we can have more endgame stuff? Maybe even less overworld maps in general? I would like to see examples of stuff wich can be pruned in order to add more other stuff, because "you have so much" is a bit vague, especially when most of it is just old or repurposed content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    So less leveling dungeons?
    NO! They're the best way to level! I wish deep dungeon would not give exp so people would spend more time in leveling dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Okay, I am a bit impressed that you actually found something wich can be thinned out a bit o.ô; I mean the people who like to level alt jobs will not be thaat happy I guess, but they will survive it.

    So less leveling dungeons? And maybe less Fates? Is that the content wich should be reduced so we can have more endgame stuff? Maybe even less overworld maps in general? I would like to see examples of stuff wich can be pruned in order to add more other stuff, because "you have so much" is a bit vague, especially when most of it is just old or repurposed content.
    Less leveling dungeons might mean they could find a way to make the leveling process more enjoyable as well. But if they never change the 5/2/2 content formula, we will never find out now will we? And for the old and repurposed content... guess where that comes from... sticking to a tried and true formula and not taking any new risks. And I truely get why they are so risk adverse on XIV, I was here for the 1.0 fiasco(there was a lot of potential which was hamstrung, due to some odd choices) But at some point, they will have to take some risks again, or some other company will capitalize on all the missed opportunities in the genre and take a large risk and succeed much like how Blizzard did with vannila WoW and transform the genre again, and by then it would be too late to recover.
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