Lack of End Game Content

[xxvaynxx]

Are you serious? you're the one who doesn't seem to know that the content for a max level character in this game is lacking. I've been here since ARR beta so drop the snide remarks.

I've also been here since ARR sooo~.....
Saying that doesn't give you validation.

There is a lot of stuff to do, its just you don't want to do it.
What I think the OP wants is battle content maybe.

Atm there is a lot of stuff to level, craft,gather, gear, do shared fates, heck even third party stuff like parse.
Its not my fault you and others thinking the same thing doesn't want to do that.

[Jojokomoko]

I've always been here since ARR sooo~.....
Saying that doesn't give you validation.

There is a lot of stuff to do, its just you don't want to do it.
What I think the OP wants is battle content maybe.

Atm there is a lot of stuff to level, craft,gather, gear, do shared fates, heck even third party stuff like parse.
Its not my fault you and others thinking the same thing doesn't want to do that.

Read my comment again, I specifically said "Challenging content to do at level 80".

And you're the one who brought up that Heavensward remarks first so what the hell is your point?

[xxvaynxx]

Read my comment again, I specifically said "Challenging content to do at level 80".

And you're the one who brought up that Heavensward remarks first so what the hell is your point?

The first point was to say you REALLY don't want to wait 6 months for new content which when HW first started. We didnt get any new content for I think...4 months? or 5.
People were so starved for content the halloween quest, so many people logged on just to do something new the servers crashed.
Hence why I said you have no idea what you're saying if you think the community could handle a long delay for patch. Go play something else if you want that. I'm happy with our fast patch cycle thank you.

And challenging content is coming. Savage is in two weeks.
The normal player base is not even going to clear savage by the time 5.1 comes out.

[testname]

I've also been here since ARR sooo~.....
Saying that doesn't give you validation.

There is a lot of stuff to do, its just you don't want to do it.
What I think the OP wants is battle content maybe.

Atm there is a lot of stuff to level, craft,gather, gear, do shared fates, heck even third party stuff like parse.
Its not my fault you and others thinking the same thing doesn't want to do that.

^ This

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I am surprised, that people are surprised about raids in general or updates, it has been like this for ages, update +1 dungeon and raids, or trials, and that is it.

The Eorzea is much more than just trial/raid

[Granyala]

FF-XIV never had much endgame content to begin with, this game always lived off being able to level all the classes.
Playing only one will net you with around 3-4hrs of maintenance per week outside of savage raiding.

ARR and HW crafting had a decent amount of challenging content. But it’s like, once 4.0 began, that all stopped. I hope we do get more content. I sadly have to agree.

Crafting was never challenging from a gameplay PoV. RNG + grind != challenging crafting process.
I'm not sad to see the RNG and timesinks gone.

I do concur that they should come up with a non RNG process that is more engaging than spamming prudent touch though.

[LadyKairi]

It’s too early to complain? Mate, the content has been the same for years now. As long as the formula doesn’t change, we know what to expect. Yoshida even said what difficulty they’re aiming for, which I can tell you right now won’t even keep the midcore occupied until the next tier. Like I said in this very thread, my static is by no means a hardcore or highly skilled group. We are about average. Even for us the only time we couldn’t finish a tier before the next tier was in Alexander. Since then, they’ve kept lowering the difficulty to try and make it more accessible to the more “casual” player base. In turn, it lowered the amount of time it kept us busy, because people were clearing them faster.

We have just cause to complain/give feedback now. It’s the same thing over and over and over. The new expansion being just launched and haven’t gotten this tier yet doesn’t matter when it’s following in the same footsteps as the last two expansions.

Also y’all need to stop saying “if they add another boss then the game turns into a job. They want you to spend time with your families and play other things”.

1) adding a single boss to the mix will not turn it into a job. I find it funny how people who don’t even do the content and know how long it takes the average raider to beat the content are making these assumptions. It’s just false. Only the best of the best/world first groups blow through it in a week or so. They are a minority within our group.

2) I can’t speak for anyone else, but I spend plenty of time off the game. Especially after my dad died. I make it a point to take care of my RL responsibilities first. If my friends or family want to do something, I tell my static I can’t make it. We raid a few days a week for a few hours, and more often than not, that is my only game time. I don’t need someone telling me to spend more time with my loved ones, when I spend plenty with them as it is.

3) I don’t want to play any other game. I’ve tried a ton of different games, but none keeps my attention like XIV. Plus my FC that I want to spend time with is on this game. I’m also second in command, so I want to be there and support my online family. Other games don’t have them. This game is what I enjoy. My escape from irl. I shouldn’t be punished for wanting to keep playing or supporting a game that I’ve been dedicated to for years and adore.

[Insertcoins]

It’s too early to complain? Mate, the content has been the same for years now. As long as the formula doesn’t change, we know what to expect. Yoshida even said what difficulty they’re aiming for, which I can tell you right now won’t even keep the midcore occupied until the next tier. Like I said in this very thread, my static is by no means a hardcore or highly skilled group. We are about average. Even for us the only time we couldn’t finish a tier before the next tier was in Alexander. Since then, they’ve kept lowering the difficulty to try and make it more accessible to the more “casual” player base. In turn, it lowered the amount of time it kept us busy, because people were clearing them faster.

We have just cause to complain/give feedback now. It’s the same thing over and over and over. The new expansion being just launched and haven’t gotten this tier yet doesn’t matter when it’s following in the same footsteps as the last two expansions.

Also y’all need to stop saying “if they add another boss then the game turns into a job. They want you to spend time with your families and play other things”.

1) adding a single boss to the mix will not turn it into a job. I find it funny how people who don’t even do the content and know how long it takes the average raider to beat the content are making these assumptions. It’s just false. Only the best of the best/world first groups blow through it in a week or so. They are a minority within our group.

2) I can’t speak for anyone else, but I spend plenty of time off the game. Especially after my dad died. I make it a point to take care of my RL responsibilities first. If my friends or family want to do something, I tell my static I can’t make it. We raid a few days a week for a few hours, and more often than not, that is my only game time. I don’t need someone telling me to spend more time with my loved ones, when I spend plenty with them as it is.

3) I don’t want to play any other game. I’ve tried a ton of different games, but none keeps my attention like XIV. Plus my FC that I want to spend time with is on this game. I’m also second in command, so I want to be there and support my online family. Other games don’t have them. This game is what I enjoy. My escape from irl. I shouldn’t be punished for wanting to keep playing or supporting a game that I’ve been dedicated to for years and adore.

But how do you answer adding more work for thigs that won't even be used by half the people in this very thread? Look I'm not against more endgame, but my issue is half the time the people complaining don't do what we have. Maybe more people need to do what we have so SE will have the numbers we want more. Cause I'm sorry... if the numbers don't reflect the yelling then why should they do something?

[Ibkee]

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Except nobody is asking for just one more boss to be added. Literally SE could add 10 more bosses and people would beat them then come in here to moan, but that's besides the point.

You basically want to have your cake and eat it. You keep yelping "I don't want to play any other game", but then moan about Final Fantasy XIV being Final Fantasy XIV. Nobody is punishing you, you are punishing yourself by limiting yourself to an experience that simply doesn't tick the boxes you want it to.

Obviously not everything with the game is perfect, but no game is perfect and it all comes down to what you're willing to overlook. Clearly this issue is not one you are willing to overlook because you are here, despite being aware the game will not change it's formula to accommodate you, endlessly posting about it. When even the game's Producer/Director says he wants people to take breaks, unsub, play other games, do other things, then well, that's just Final Fantasy XIV.

[LadyKairi]

Except nobody is asking for just one more boss to be added. Literally SE could add 10 more bosses and people would beat them then come in here to moan, but that's besides the point.

You basically want to have your cake and eat it. You keep yelping "I don't want to play any other game", but then moan about Final Fantasy XIV being Final Fantasy XIV. Nobody is punishing you, you are punishing yourself by limiting yourself to an experience that simply doesn't tick the boxes you want

You are factually wrong. 10 more bosses would be farrrrrr too much. And no one has been asking for one more boss? Have you even been reading this thread? I have literally been asking for at least one more boss if they choose to keep this difficulty. You people overestimate us raiders if you think we would blow through 5 savage bosses in a week. Newsflash sweetie, the average raider aren’t like the world first raiders. You’d realize that if you actually did the content or have been reading what’s being said. Basing your opinions on the minority of our minority is highly unfair when most of us take much longer to consume the content.

Either they need to bring the difficulty back up to keep us busy longer, or add another fight if they insist of keeping the current difficulty. Most of us aren’t asking for much at all. And it just baffles me that people who have no idea how long it take most of us to clear said fights are trying to refuse us what we are asking for based on some stupid assumption. We aren’t asking for much. No one in this thread in favor of more content has been asking for a lot. They could literally give us a one boss more or even a TRUE hard mode dungeon.

The average raider doesn’t blow through content like you’re claiming. Denying us of our request because of false assumptions is an injustice. It’s really not fair. Why do we have to suffer because we have a minority that blows through for the prestige of being #1? Y’all have to plenty of people who blow through your content in a matter of days, yet here y’all are. Constantly getting content regardless, to the point you’re drowning in it. We don’t want a lot.

I can’t help what I enjoy and what I don’t enjoy. I can’t force myself to like something I hate, and it’s absurd to expect us to. If I didn’t love XIV I wouldn’t be here. It’s just this branch of content I enjoy is lacking. It doesn’t even need much to make most of us happy. Trying to make the content better for more shouldn’t be shunned. Especially since we are customers as well. Why shouldn’t the game be improved to make more happy? We aren’t asking to make those world first/no lifers happy. They will never be happy with what is given if they want to be #1 all the time. We are asking to make the average raider happy. Those of us who spend time IRL but still have enough game time to beat the tier and have a drought until the next.

You people get your cake and eat it too. Why can’t we have just a little more than what we get. You guys still get most of the cake.

[Zabuza]

You are factually wrong. 10 more bosses would be farrrrrr too much. And no one has been asking for one more boss? Have you even been reading this thread? I have literally been asking for at least one more boss if they choose to keep this difficulty. You people overestimate us raiders if you think we would blow through 5 savage bosses in a week. Newsflash sweetie, the average raider aren’t like the world first raiders. You’d realize that if you actually did the content or have been reading what’s being said. Basing your opinions on the minority of our minority is highly unfair when most of us take much longer to consume the content.

Either they need to bring the difficulty back up to keep us busy longer, or add another fight if they insist of keeping the current difficulty. Most of us aren’t asking for much at all. And it just baffles me that people who have no idea how long it take most of us to clear said fights are trying to refuse us what we are asking for based on some stupid assumption. We aren’t asking for much. No one in this thread in favor of more content has been asking for a lot. They could literally give us a one boss more or even a TRUE hard mode dungeon.

The average raider doesn’t blow through content like you’re claiming. Denying us of our request because of false assumptions is an injustice. It’s really not fair. Why do we have to suffer because we have a minority that blows through for the prestige of being #1? Y’all have to plenty of people who blow through your content in a matter of days, yet here y’all are. Constantly getting content regardless, to the point you’re drowning in it. We don’t want a lot.

I can’t help what I enjoy and what I don’t enjoy. I can’t force myself to like something I hate, and it’s absurd to expect us to. If I didn’t love XIV I wouldn’t be here. It’s just this branch of content I enjoy is lacking. It doesn’t even need much to make most of us happy. Trying to make the content better for more shouldn’t be shunned. Especially since we are customers as well. Why shouldn’t the game be improved to make more happy? We aren’t asking to make those world first/no lifers happy. They will never be happy with what is given if they want to be #1 all the time. We are asking to make the average raider happy. Those of us who spend time IRL but still have enough game time to beat the tier and have a drought until the next.

You people get your cake and eat it too. Why can’t we have just a little more than what we get. You guys still get most of the cake.

Careful, they might think you're being unreasonable while they brag about the plethora of content they have to do. Obviously you have to like what they do, and if you don't you need to leave and go back to WoW where you came from! We don't need you here!