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    I feel like everyone in this thread is maybe forgetting the most consistent part of the dev team: if people complain, it will disappear (or reappear lol). Cast times on Bard, adding Miasma II, when they added Stoneskin II (just to remove it lol), Excogitation, Lillies, are all examples I can think from the top of my head where the devs changed things purely in response to people’s reception and feedback on found etc, even when the devs themselves probably didn’t see issues.

    Healers are not dead, DPS healing is not dead, purely for the reason that so many people don’t want DPS healing to die.

    I cannot think of a single issue where the developers have maintained their stance purely because of their ‘vision’ for the game. Ever. (Obviously I might be wholly wrong, I don’t exactly have evidence to back up my hyperbole lol). But I genuinely do not believe that the developers will make healers just heal because that’s what they’re supposed to.

    The developers will make healers do whatever the community wants them to do, and clearly (unfortunately) that means high DPS capabilities, no GCD healing, making minimisation of all healing a necessity, and let’s not forget infinite MP.

    Anyway, my point is that I feel like we’re kinda starting to make a fuss and argue over just nothing now lol. Once Shadowbringers releases and it’s revealed they’ve added back all the removed healer DPS abilities, everyone will wonder what the big deal was in the first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I cannot think of a single issue where the developers have maintained their stance purely because of their ‘vision’ for the game. Ever. (Obviously I might be wholly wrong, I don’t exactly have evidence to back up my hyperbole lol). But I genuinely do not believe that the developers will make healers just heal because that’s what they’re supposed to.
    I have 4 words for you: White Mage "Pure Healer"
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I have 4 words for you: White Mage "Pure Healer"
    From what I've heard, this may have been a worry just from how things get translated, and yoshi uses "pure healing" to differentiate from shield healing (which he's apparently done before, prior to that liveletter). So instead of the statement being about shoving all healers into only healing, it was really just about homogenizing them in an effort to balance them more. But we'll have to wait till Shadowbringers to see for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akonyl View Post
    From what I've heard, this may have been a worry just from how things get translated, and yoshi uses "pure healing" to differentiate from shield healing (which he's apparently done before, prior to that liveletter). So instead of the statement being about shoving all healers into only healing, it was really just about homogenizing them in an effort to balance them more. But we'll have to wait till Shadowbringers to see for sure.
    That's what I thought at first. But he uses it as an excuse for not giving the whm buffs like the others have or any sort of utility as well. That vision of a "pure healer" that he has has constantly been in the way of getting WHM anything other than more heals than it ever needs and regurgitated abilities that are taken away, given to everyone, and then shoved back in as a "new" ability somewhere down the road. No other class has had that done to them once, let alone twice like WHM.
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

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