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  1. #181
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    Knoahl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    I'd really rather they didn't. I'm not really interested in playing a pseudo dps.
    Unfortunately unless they reintroduce accuracy into the game for healers, or nerf all our potencies into oblivion. You are a pseudo dps, it's just how the game functions, and it's even simpler than ever before in Shadowbringers so people have no excuse.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knoahl View Post
    Unfortunately unless they reintroduce accuracy into the game for healers, or nerf all our potencies into oblivion. You are a pseudo dps, it's just how the game functions, and it's even simpler than ever before in Shadowbringers so people have no excuse.
    There's a reason I've been drifting further and further from playing healers. I pretty much only do it for savage (and ultimate prog at the moment); I can't stand how little healing is really needed. It's sad because it's like, the better I get at playing healers in this game, the less I want to play them.
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  3. #183
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    I'm really not sure what you want them to do. As you get better at healing, whether by gear or skill, you'll have to heal less. It's a simple fact of what healing IS. So your choices are either sitting around useless with the time you've been given, or deliberately deciding not to improve your gear or letting it break. Nothing they design can change this unless they do something like require extremely stringent gear requirements (forcing minimum ilvl) AND design content to require perfect execution by the healer to prevent a wipe.

    At least, if you insist on being a pure healer that casts no non-healing spells whatsoever.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    I feel like there are far too many healers who stand around idly while the rest of the party does all the work.
    amen to this. They come into parties like they are gods, blow up forums.media like the game is made just for them, and treat people poorly because they are a small niche group that is crucial to the game. Thank lalafell that yoshi and team realized this, made changes, and we're getting a new batch of non toxic healers that just wanna play the game and not try to be a spoiled deity in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    amen to this. They come into parties like they are gods, blow up forums.media like the game is made just for them, and treat people poorly because they are a small niche group that is crucial to the game. Thank lalafell that yoshi and team realized this, made changes, and we're getting a new batch of non toxic healers that just wanna play the game and not try to be a spoiled deity in the game.
    Nani??? I don't understand this at all.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    amen to this. They come into parties like they are gods, blow up forums.media like the game is made just for them, and treat people poorly because they are a small niche group that is crucial to the game. Thank lalafell that yoshi and team realized this, made changes, and we're getting a new batch of non toxic healers that just wanna play the game and not try to be a spoiled deity in the game.
    Might want to get that chip on your shoulder checked out.
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  7. #187
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    His a low reaching troll there's nothing to understand xd.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    There's a reason I've been drifting further and further from playing healers. I pretty much only do it for savage (and ultimate prog at the moment); I can't stand how little healing is really needed. It's sad because it's like, the better I get at playing healers in this game, the less I want to play them.
    I agree with you, I really hope they do make healing more engaging on the healing side, but with spells like excogitation and such potent oGCD's etc I guess I can say I'm growing weary hopeing they push it more in that direction. I guess thats why healers who "DPS" are also upset, we share a common goal we want healing to be engaging and fun.

    Let's hope they really do mean what they say about this expansion, but I am a bit Jaded (not sure if it is the right term) regarding it all.
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knoahl View Post
    Jaded (not sure if it is the right term) regarding it all.
    If you mean to say that you're having a difficulty believing in the dev team's capability of producing the sort of content that they're promising, especially because you realize they've made these same statements and commitments before, all while being unable to muster the venom necessary to feel anything more than apathy towards them and/or the situation; then yes, you are jaded. Much like many of the healers have become, and rightfully so, as Stormblood was supposed to be their opportunity to review all of this, and the changes they've put out for Shadowbringers goes against the design philosophies that the dev team claims to have for the other roles ("don't want to take away or restrict abilities, because it will feel like they're punishing the players" and bragging about raising weak classes to be stronger rather than nerfing other classes to make them weaker is something that comes immediately to mind).
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    Last edited by MintnHoney; 06-10-2019 at 08:29 AM.

  10. #190
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    If you mean to say that you're having a difficulty believing in the dev team's capability of producing the sort of content that they're promising, especially because you realize they've made these same statements and commitments before, all while being unable to muster the venom necessary to feel anything more than apathy towards them and/or the situation; then yes, you are jaded. Much like many of the healers have become, and rightfully so, as Stormblood was supposed to be their opportunity to review all of this, and the changes they've put out for Shadowbringers goes against the design philosophies that the dev team claims to have for the other roles ("don't want to take away or restrict abilities, because it will feel like they're punishing the players" and bragging about raising weak classes to be stronger rather than nerfing other classes to make them weaker is something that comes immediately to mind).
    "But, won't they notice if we say one thing and then force the exact opposite?"
    "Nah, we'll just say what we said was our intent, and the rest couldn't be helped. Enough people will understand to make sure the rest must as well."
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