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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Tanks do have greater entitlement. But consider your examples. If a DPS doesn't AoE, the party can still make up the DPS. If the tank can't handle big pulls, knows they can't handle big pulls, and then gets pressured into doing them and fails, then the party will go up one side the tank and down the other. They will get called a shit tank. There is a much greater stress on the tank to perform well and mistakes that cause wipes are not looked on fondly.

    So yes, tanks do have greater entitlement, and it's justified.

    I'm a WHM. I let my tank know that they can pull more if they're pulling small and we're not having issues. But I always leave the choice in their hands. It's a real person behind that toon. I show respect by acknowledging they know their limits. I show willingness to work within those limits. It's called a party for a reason. We're all intended to work together as a team.
    I hope you understand that the only things you have to do in order to make a big pull are to run forward and press Flash/Overpower/Unleash a few times. That's it. That's all it takes. Even using cooldowns isn't mandatory as the healer should be able to somewhat adjust. The healer is "handling the pull", by the way, not the tank. Once enmity is secured, the tank doesn't have to do much except pray that their healer can more HPS than the incoming damage. You even said that you -as a healer- were letting your tank know if they could pull more. If the tanks were actually the ones fully in control of how to handle big pulls, you wouldn't be able to say that.

    Besides, I really don't see what kind of mistakes someone could do after that much playtime. And if they do somehow make some really, really weird mistakes that they shouldn't be doing at level 70, then they really aren't entitled to anything except getting told to get back at the Hall of the Novice. A tank cannot cause a wipe except if they are extremely bad, which isn't an excuse, and even less a reason to give them priviledge (don't reward mediocrity). And I'm obviously not talking about exceptions (ie. new to the dungeon, having a disability, whatever).

    Whatever the case, stop making big pulls look like some kind of 200 IQ gameplay that would make tanks deserve to be treated differently from a healer or a DPS. We could really benefit from that misconception going away. Tanking is easy. A big pull can be done by literally pressing only two buttons: forward and AoE enmity. Sorry but this is not enough to give them a "greater entitlement". It's far from being justified. And this is coming from a WAR main.

    We often see threads of people talking about tank anxiety, when there is no reason to be worried. And you are not helping here.

    Edit: Just to be clear, this post was written within the context of max level dungeons (50/60/70) where gear completly obliterates everything.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 04-23-2019 at 04:06 PM.