Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
the content is not what determines a kick. the party is the ones kicking you, not the group. if they dont want to play with someone, even in the situation in the OP, they don't have to. thats what the kick and leave functions are for. differences in playstyle has been cited multiple times as a valid reason to kick another party member.

perhaps the emphasis of "any expectation" is hyperbole but still expectations are not being met and i feel that honestly by level 70 the excuse of being inexperienced does not hold.
The bolded line in your response is simply not true. The kick system is very often abused and used for harassment purposes. There are hundreds and thousands of valid reports and punishments made for people unreasonably kicking someone from a group (especially if the non-kicked members are pre-made).

Yes, you are correct that kicking someone =/= harassment... necessarily. But it can be, and often is.

The situation outlined by the OP is not one in which the tank was being unreasonable, and there was no valid reason to kick the tank. And frankly, that is the entire point of this thread. Not whether there are or are not situations where kicking is acceptable (that's quite obvious that there are).


There is a such thing as expectations being objectively too high. And this is one of those. It's not like the tank was losing threat constantly or dying constantly or afking. All he was doing is going a tiny bit slower than he possibly could have (large group pulling actually doesn't shave that much time off your dungeon run, btw).

When you see the "there is someone who hasn't done this dungeon before" message pop up, and it's the tank, do you immediately kick them? If not, that right there is a reasonable example of an inexperienced tank at level 70.