Please do something about Roll Trolls

[Deceptus]

SE please make an announcement because somehow it is not clear enough in your ToS. Greifing by way of not rolling on loot until the last seconds is not allowed.

I'll feed the troll.

The timer exists for a reason. If SE wanted to, they could lower it.

Reasons I don't roll on loot:

1) I've been kicked for no reason a few times and keeping loot up is kick protection. Either have loot up or be in battle.

2) I already have all the items I need in dungeons and there isn't a "pass all" button. I'm not going to click pass on every single item. If you need the gear, you'll get it eventually no need to complain.

[Hash_Browns]

I've run The Orbonne Monastery a few times, and seen this happen with people expressing annoyance in the party/alliance chat. I'm not talking about people taking their time to roll loot, but actually waiting until the timer hit about 5 seconds before finally rolling for one or all items. I don't really care if people want to consider it trolling or not, but the timer should be lowered to 1 or 2 minutes. 5 minutes to roll on loot for a boss you just helped kill is a bit much. Hell, I would be happy if they just changed the extra loot chest, or final boss loot chest to 1 or 2 minutes.

1) I've been kicked for no reason a few times and keeping loot up is kick protection. Either have loot up or be in battle.

I have a problem with this as well. Loot shouldn't grant you kick protection.

[Seraph522]

I have a problem with this as well. Loot shouldn't grant you kick protection.

Thing is, there needs to be some kind of protection in place, otherwise people would start kicking to get specific gear pieces, which would be less than ideal. It sucks that it can be abused to avoid being kicked, but it's kind of a lose-lose situation in that regard.

[Hash_Browns]

Thing is, there needs to be some kind of protection in place, otherwise people would start kicking to get specific gear pieces, which would be less than ideal. It sucks that it can be abused to avoid being kicked, but it's kind of a lose-lose situation in that regard.

I suppose that is true.
Truth be told I think the major problem is the 5 minute timer.
Reducing the timer would solve most of the issues at hand. 2 minutes should be more then enough time considering you should be active for the boss itself, meaning you should see the loot.

[Deceptus]

Thing is, there needs to be some kind of protection in place, otherwise people would start kicking to get specific gear pieces, which would be less than ideal. It sucks that it can be abused to avoid being kicked, but it's kind of a lose-lose situation in that regard.

Which is exactly what happened to me.

FC was running an alliance in a 24 man and they all kicked me. Of course I reported it but couldn't do anything after the fact.