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    Lacan's Avatar
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    Ceolred Stone
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    What I do is just /shout and tell them that if they think they can wait me out they've got another thing coming. :v
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    What I do is just /shout and tell them that if they think they can wait me out they've got another thing coming. :v
    I just generally [Please roll for loot]. It usually does the job.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    SamSmoot's Avatar
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Just make it so you roll can complete even after you've left the instance. Roll on the stuff you want, then forget about it.
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Just make it so you roll can complete even after you've left the instance. Roll on the stuff you want, then forget about it.
    I get the feeling that this can't be implemented right now because of people being in different worlds, or something like that.
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    Seraph522's Avatar
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    Estelle Joyeaux
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Just make it so you roll can complete even after you've left the instance. Roll on the stuff you want, then forget about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I get the feeling that this can't be implemented right now because of people being in different worlds, or something like that.
    The issue has more to do with how inventory is managed in instanced content. Dungeons, trials, raids, etc. all take place in separate 'instance servers' from the main world servers, and due to the spaghetti code, not everything about a character will be loaded into the instance to save on data space and bandwidth - this is why you can't access your Chocobo Saddlebag in dungeons, for example. When you leave an instance, whether in the middle of a dungeon run or at the very end, you take all your character data with you, including inventory. Keeping your roll active would require that instance to try to maintain a connection to your character after you've left it, so that if you got something it could be deposited into your inventory - and that might overwhelm the servers if a ton of people all did this at once (too many people accessing instance servers at the same time is why Raubahn EX happened back when Stormblood first launched, for example). They'd need to overhaul how they handle instances in game to allow rolls to be maintained after you left - and that might be a very large and/or unfeasible amount of work. It's a good idea, but I don't know if it's possible in the current iteration of the game.
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    There is no reason to change this. If you shorten the timer your punishing people with legitimate issues. Is it annoying, yes some times it is. But honestly if you leave you didn't want it as bad as they did. When they roll they get a random number just like you do its not like waiting improves your chances of winning, just less people to win against. For those people who are using the timer to not get kicked, talk to your
    group and just wait the 5 min let the timer expire and then kick them. Your going to be happier in the long run and all it cost you was a few min.
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I completely understand the frustration, but I don't think it's all that necessary. Especially since you can't prove that someone who hasn't rolled is doing so to improve odds for themselves.

    As annoying as it is, I am petty enough to wait the 5 minutes.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Camille Blythe
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I'm sure it's been said already, but if it's something you really want you'll wait. If it's not worth 5 minutes of your time then it's not worth worrying over at all, is it?
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 96
    It's not just 5mins when you have multiple loot though. As I mentioned earlier, afkers can use this method to not get kicked for a whole alliance raid.

    Use PF for maps? You have to wait 5mins for every single step of a map. 5mins to go into the portal. 5 mins wait for every invocation.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 03-23-2019 at 10:33 AM.

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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Soma Kagami
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    If you have time to waste in an MMO which is nothing more than a timesink, you can spend 5 minutes waiting on loot. It's really not the end of the world.
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