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  1. #2551
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Though to be frank always reducing it to skin color is moronic because not only does the character creation screen gives us such a wide variety to pick from within lore-friendly skin colors, it also gives us a wide variety of skin-colors outside any given sub-race's lore definition.
    You'd think they're "outside" the lore-defined skin colours, but then we get weird things like the small number of dark-skinned Elezen in the middle of northern-European Ishgard - confirmably a thousand-year-old family trait of House Durendaire, and there are others like Charibert.
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  2. #2552
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You'd think they're "outside" the lore-defined skin colours, but then we get weird things like the small number of dark-skinned Elezen in the middle of northern-European Ishgard - confirmably a thousand-year-old family trait of House Durendaire, and there are others like Charibert.
    Setting aside how a debate can be had about where the Ishgardian Elezen fall in this in the first place, I'd sooner take it as proof of what we've known all along - lore is what the devs make of it, and even in the smallest things they can make or break it if they so choose, like hempen sets being race unlocked on NPCs.
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  3. #2553
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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    -- And they talked about floppy ears, wonder if that will be an option or one of the characteristics setting the clans apart.
    The floppy ears are Ear Type III according to this.

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  4. #2554
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    Silent Bear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    To be honest, I'm leaning more towards this.

    Two full races, not-genderlocked, sounds way too much to be plausible, and given the lore behind male Viera, I'm wondering if they're trying to preserve the mystery behind male Viera by not releasing them, but giving us a related race male-genderlocked, but similar enough to Viera that they are essentially our equivalent of male Viera.
    So based on the race being described as Ronso-like (Which people say look like Roe) and another leakers saying bara cats. Are people excited for big burly bara bunny men? I better get the art train running then! LOL

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  5. #2555
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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfyboy View Post
    So based on the race being described as Ronso-like (Which people say look like Roe) and another leakers saying bara cats. Are people excited for big burly bara bunny men? I better get the art train running then! LOL


    DADDY PLS!


    I honestly would be totally okay with this
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  6. #2556
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    DADDY PLS!


    I honestly would be totally okay with this
    It would be an improved Roe so I'd probably would switch into it, and I still have my free fantasia on my main that I've been holding. If people want to speculate the about Hrothgar being the male Viera equivalent, then I hope they know they'll highly unlikely get a thin elegant looking male Viera. Heck, I can use some of the same arguments on this forums against that option by saying, "We already have a male based bunny race, it is called Hrothgar! We should get something different!".
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    Last edited by Wolfyboy; 03-07-2019 at 11:22 PM.

  7. #2557
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfyboy View Post
    It would be an improved Roe so I'd probably would switch into it, and I still have my free fantasia on my main that I've been holding. If people want to speculate the about Hrothgar being the male Viera equivalent, then I hope they know they'll highly unlikely get a thin elegant looking male Viera. Heck, I can use some of the same arguments on this forums against that option by saying, "We already have a male based bunny race, it is called Hrothgar! We should get something different!".

    I understand your point, but I personally would love to see an actual male implementation of the Viera, and a femal implementation of the other tribe.
    Gender-locking tribes is such a dated mechanic, it really has no place anymore in today's game market.
    And frankly, I don't care whether Yoshi-P doesn't like the concept of a male Viera. We're the ones giving our money, and obviously the demand is there.
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  8. #2558
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    Ceolred Stone
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    The race could still be elegant looking even if they're bigger. :v Not all big races have to look like ogres or something. I want a race that is ripped and dignified looking. Kind of like how the Viera females are sexy but still have this real fierce presence to them. Like they aren't to be messed with.

    I just don't want another big comic relief race since SE pretty much uses male roes as joke characters exclusively.
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  9. #2559
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    I understand your point, but I personally would love to see an actual male implementation of the Viera, and a femal implementation of the other tribe.
    Gender-locking tribes is such a dated mechanic, it really has no place anymore in today's game market.
    And frankly, I don't care whether Yoshi-P doesn't like the concept of a male Viera. We're the ones giving our money, and obviously the demand is there.
    Don't get me wrong, I prefer Hrothgar be something else instead of this combination of what both groups wants where no one wins, so that way they can add male Viera later like how they should actually appear.

    The race could still be elegant looking even if they're bigger. :v Not all big races have to look like ogres or something. I want a race that is ripped and dignified looking. Kind of like how the Viera females are sexy but still have this real fierce presence to them. Like they aren't to be messed with.

    I just don't want another big comic relief race since SE pretty much uses male roes as joke characters exclusively.
    The problem with Hrothgar is that their appearance has been described as Ronso-like and bara cats. If they did mistake male Viera/their equivalent with them then we'll most likely get Roe with bunny ears. The thing is, you shouldn't want Hrothgar (if they exist) to be male Viera or it'll make no one truly happy.
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  10. #2560
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfyboy View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I prefer Hrothgar be something else instead of this combination of what both groups wants where no one wins, so that way they can add male Viera later like how they should actually appear.



    The problem with Hrothgar is that their appearance has been described as Ronso-like and bara cats. If they did mistake male Viera/their equivalent with them then we'll most likely get Roe with bunny ears. The thing is, you shouldn't want Hrothgar (if they exist) to be male Viera or it'll make no one truly happy.
    If they're trying to give us Hrothgar as a substitute for male Viera, they should at least try to fill some of the expectations people had from Viera though. People aren't going to be happy if they're given something completely different and told to just forget about male Viera. That'll go over terribly.
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