Gender locked race?

[Gwenorai]

That wouldn't make sense with the French leaks since it was separated by races and not by clans, so I wouldn't even say unlikely but a hard, "No."

My line of thought is that they wouldn't call themselves Viera due to the actual meaning of what 'Viera' is. To them, someone not born of the wood or who leaves the wood is no longer considered a Viera. Makes you wonder what they actually call themselves after that - well if a large bulk of them broke away from that way of life to create a new 'clan'.

Honestly yeah, it's a hard no - would certainly make me cock a brow. Speculation is speculation.

[AnnaRosa]

At this point I will be stunned if Hrothgar and Dancer are not shown.

On a related note, I asked a WoW veteran friend if Blizzard has ever separated gender reveals on different events and she explained that the female worgen were shown first because the males were not ready to be shown at the time. Though, I feel if male Viera weren't ready to be shown in Paris, Yoshida would have said something. The complete silence on this matter was calculated.

Can be related to their social behavior pattern due to the country traditions, customs and how shape their life in a daily basis when come to deal with such situations.
If you notice the way they deal with players expectations and requests it's completely different how any other companies from different countries deal with, in a positive way.
Would not be surprised that the model details weren't decided yet by that time so there is no presentation of what they have so far because if they have to change something later the amount of hate in the forums would be even worse to handle.

Sorry if can't express better English is not native idiom

[BillyKaplan]

Then again, they might just have more subtle distinctions and the Dramaturge isn't going to hold up his explanation to outline every detail. If nothing else, I hope that's the case at least.

I do feel like we're putting too much stock and faith in the Dramaturge's words. I get he's supposed to be the Viera creator similar to how the Wandering Minstrel is Yoshida, but at the same time it wouldn't make sense that everything he said is 100% accurate, or that he said 100% of what was there to say.
So while I do think he would've mentioned it if there were other differences, who's to say he necessarily knew about them? He could've confused two Viera belonging to the one tribe thinking they came from different tribes because the skin color was so different (a not unreasonable mistake). And that's before we get to the lore of the different tribes/clans - how much would someone really know about such subtle differences, for such a secret society? Viera are reclusive and exclusive. There's a limit to how much he would know, or at least have had first hand experience with. For instance, he's never seen a male Viera before, and while that could easily be them crushing our hopes for the bunny boys, it doesn't change my point - as much as he is a mouthpiece for the story-teller, the Dramaturge still isn't even remotely depicted as an all knowing authority

[jameseoakes]

I do feel like we're putting too much stock and faith in the Dramaturge's words. I get he's supposed to be the Viera creator similar to how the Wandering Minstrel is Yoshida, but at the same time it wouldn't make sense that everything he said is 100% accurate, or that he said 100% of what was there to say.
So while I do think he would've mentioned it if there were other differences, who's to say he necessarily knew about them? He could've confused two Viera belonging to the one tribe thinking they came from different tribes because the skin color was so different (a not unreasonable mistake). And that's before we get to the lore of the different tribes/clans - how much would someone really know about such subtle differences, for such a secret society? Viera are reclusive and exclusive. There's a limit to how much he would know, or at least have had first hand experience with. For instance, he's never seen a male Viera before, and while that could easily be them crushing our hopes for the bunny boys, it doesn't change my point - as much as he is a mouthpiece for the story-teller, the Dramaturge still isn't even remotely depicted as an all knowing authority

While I agree the Dramaturge should be considered a flawed source of information why put in that amount of lore that would be invalidated by character character screen come the expansion.

[BillyKaplan]

While I agree the Dramaturge should be considered a flawed source of information why put in that amount of lore that would be invalidated by character character screen come the expansion.

I was mostly making an example regarding the skin colors. More than likely there are more differences between the clans, just that he wasn't privy to.
Though to be frank always reducing it to skin color is moronic because not only does the character creation screen gives us such a wide variety to pick from within lore-friendly skin colors, it also gives us a wide variety of skin-colors outside any given sub-race's lore definition.

[jameseoakes]

I was mostly making an example regarding the skin colors. More than likely there are more differences between the clans, just that he wasn't privy to.
Though to be frank always reducing it to skin color is moronic because not only does the character creation screen gives us such a wide variety to pick from within lore-friendly skin coloirs, it also gives us a wide variety of skin-colours outside any given sub-race's lore definition.

Fair point I'd thought you meant they might do some big changes but yeah there is plently of scope for additions and minor corrections to what he says

[BillyKaplan]

Fair point I'd thought you meant they might do some big changes

I'm hoping for it, I won't lie. Still lowkey hoping for the Viera-Feol separation but not holding my breath on that one. And they talked about floppy ears, wonder if that will be an option or one of the characteristics setting the clans apart.

[jameseoakes]

I'm hoping for it, I won't lie. Still lowkey hoping for the Viera-Feol separation but not holding my breath on that one. And they talked about floppy ears, wonder if that will be an option or one of the characteristics setting the clans apart.

I hope so too, but I can't see it. I just can't them adding exposition like that just to better set up some hype at the full reveal. I assume the floppy ears will just be part of the creator options.

[Seraphor]

Part of me wishes that Hrothgar is the subrace to Viera that simply doesn't live in the wood and thus has the smaller ears and mane-like hair, perhaps lives in mountain/snow climate - like an Arctic hare. Arctic hares are much smaller than normal hares having smaller limbs and smaller ears than their counterparts. Also of course not forgetting that 'Viera' means 'of the wood'. Seems highly unlikely, however; unless people can't tell the difference between a 'cat' and a 'rabbit' in descriptions.

To be honest, I'm leaning more towards this.

Two full races, not-genderlocked, sounds way too much to be plausible, and given the lore behind male Viera, I'm wondering if they're trying to preserve the mystery behind male Viera by not releasing them, but giving us a related race male-genderlocked, but similar enough to Viera that they are essentially our equivalent of male Viera.

[BillyKaplan]

Two full races, not-genderlocked, sounds way too much to be plausible, and given the lore behind male Viera, I'm wondering if they're trying to preserve the mystery behind male Viera by not releasing them, but giving us a related race male-genderlocked, but similar enough to Viera that they are essentially our equivalent of male Viera.

Sounds like them releasing Midlander ladies and Highlander guys as matches...