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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    At this point I will be stunned if Hrothgar and Dancer are not shown.

    On a related note, I asked a WoW veteran friend if Blizzard has ever separated gender reveals on different events and she explained that the female worgen were shown first because the males were not ready to be shown at the time. Though, I feel if male Viera weren't ready to be shown in Paris, Yoshida would have said something. The complete silence on this matter was calculated.
    Can be related to their social behavior pattern due to the country traditions, customs and how shape their life in a daily basis when come to deal with such situations.
    If you notice the way they deal with players expectations and requests it's completely different how any other companies from different countries deal with, in a positive way.
    Would not be surprised that the model details weren't decided yet by that time so there is no presentation of what they have so far because if they have to change something later the amount of hate in the forums would be even worse to handle.

    Sorry if can't express better English is not native idiom
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    As far as the leaks are concerned, I'm inclined to consider them worthy of note. Dissidia NT suffered leaks as well - and the roster reveals all turned out to be true. Assuming it isn't the same source as the leaks for FFXIV then that means there's at least two major leakers out there plaguing Square Enix. Which is a shame, since it would have been a lot more fun and mysterious if the leaks didn't happen. Too much about them has turned out to be true for people to claim they have no merit at this point. Any 'wrong' information has been slight tweaks, such as the name of Omega M and Omega F changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    For me it is the omission of the new race's name that has me most skeptical about the leaks by the time the main story is known to include past side stories a new race would at least have a tentative name like Adam and Eve were for Omega M and F so not saying it is suspicious especially when you pair it up with a description of said race. Another thing to add is the new 8 man raid series is still hidden which would be long past conceptual stage at this point, when it comes to leaks the more you say the more chances you have for being credible this leak has very little information and it is both upfront and vague at the same time.
    This is a problem I have too. You can argue that they didn’t have the information and suddenly was given a new race dropped on them with only the concept art (also they would be rather behind in development). But even still, that’s just a little weird, the concept art should also include the placeholder name or the real name, not just descriptions.
    The only name we can tag the lion-like race with is the one from the French error text, which the dataminers said it’s been in the files since December. I can only assume they picked this name long before it was added into the game.
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    Someone leaking major elements of an expansion/patch cannot be expected to be consistent in regards to what they choose to leak.
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    That's what really bothered me about Hrothgar is that apparently, they were so taboo to bring up? That's what got me, why was every single leaker - that I can recall right now - unwilling to mention the name of the race? What they were willing to mention was the whole lion appearance and the fact they weren't Ronso. It sounded like they were just reading from text descriptions. But that still doesn't explain the lack of the name.

    Blufever did seem rather 'off' to me; just in the way they typed. I don't doubt their leaks but they way they backed off and vanished was questionable. Who was going to come after them? No one. The account they were using was a throwaway account; it baffles my head.

    The other leaker went and insulted everyone who wanted male Viera and just said 'buff cat' - and then stupidly mentioned where they vanished off to. Making it extremely easy to be tracked down and then sued. And of course the fact they were 'parroting' and added information that was easy to guess. If they told us about Ozma mount or something then I'd have thought 'hmm, this person is legit.'

    Either way I'm interested how this goes, the head of the lore is going to be there so I'm sure we'll get a big old explanation based on 'lore' just why the male Viera or female Hrothgar are missing - which will obviously be dismantled unless they make it to the point where the two races 'locked counterparts' can't be retconned at all.

    Could this be devs playing their userbase and trolling? Maybe, I can imagine someone doing it - not the one who insulted the community and was a butt, however. Either they're making a bad decision and just testing the waters to see how people react, they don't care and they're just going to go with whatever their vision for the game is - or they're just doing this so the last fanfest is going to be 'amazing'.

    They will be competing with ESO due to the release date - ESO went and retconned their lore to have dragons in Elsywer Expansion. Eso is also taking people to the Khajiit homeland - first time seen; or first time looking 'good'. On the more 'business' side of things; if they wanted to add in a big buff cat - I'm going to ask why when a competing MMO is doing the first-time reveal of a homeland of big buff cat race? If you're going to do that then you can't just half-assed the race otherwise they're going to lose to Miqo'te and certainly going to lose to Elder Scrolls lore on 'Buff cats'.
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    Lol you guys come up with some interesting theories, I'll give you that much. Hopefully Yoshi has a way of going over his decisions whatever they may be but I don't expect him to.
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    I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race, I get that they weren't finished but surely if they were going to do sub races how they have been historically done we'd just get a lighter and darker viera with more distinct features between them right?

    Perhaps the 'young elezen' looking viera will be some sort of subrace and the hrothgar will get a similar 'young elezen' subrace for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race
    Not in the fanfest per se but the npc that revealed viera did mention 2 clans, a light skinned and dark skinned (forgot what names he used tho). Hopefully they're more than just recolors. I don't want to sound entitled but small different features is seriously the least they could do, or else what's even the point of having 2 clans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race, I get that they weren't finished but surely if they were going to do sub races how they have been historically done we'd just get a lighter and darker viera with more distinct features between them right?

    Perhaps the 'young elezen' looking viera will be some sort of subrace and the hrothgar will get a similar 'young elezen' subrace for themselves.

    Fanfest didn't give a subrace but two viera clan names WERE dropped in the 4.5 lore. I forget their names but the only thing mentioned being different was one being lighter skinned and one darker. I"m not expecting anything truely different like mid/highlander split.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race, I get that they weren't finished but surely if they were going to do sub races how they have been historically done we'd just get a lighter and darker viera with more distinct features between them right?

    Perhaps the 'young elezen' looking viera will be some sort of subrace and the hrothgar will get a similar 'young elezen' subrace for themselves.
    Do you mean like shown side by side? Because then yeah we definitely never recieved that lol. But do you mean is there any mention what so ever about a subrace? Because we do have mention of a subrace in the game lore written by Matsuno. That lore says there are two clans (subraces) and their main difference is light skin and dark skin, this lore written for Viera is also the same lore built for FFXII's world and we know from that game that it's indeed mainly a color difference.
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