Gender locked race?

[Gwenorai]

That's bothered me since we first got the Viera lore dump. Skintone might be the most noticeable difference between clans of other races, but they usually have secondary features (eg. distinct eyes) and always different lore.

It bothers me that he just talks about "Viera culture" and not the clans.


Wild theory though, if skintone really is the only distinction between them - and unless they've specifically made new dark-oriented and pale-oriented palettes for them - why not have them programmed as one clan, and use the second clan for something else entirely... like Hrothgar?

Then again, they might just have more subtle distinctions and the Dramaturge isn't going to hold up his explanation to outline every detail. If nothing else, I hope that's the case at least.

They'd have to do something otherwise yeah, it's going to be boring - but then again if they're going the gender locked route then it's already going to be a race that doesn't have two distinct sub-races as well as lacking their male counterparts.

Part of me wishes that Hrothgar is the subrace to Viera that simply doesn't live in the wood and thus has the smaller ears and mane-like hair, perhaps lives in mountain/snow climate - like an Arctic hare. Arctic hares are much smaller than normal hares having smaller limbs and smaller ears than their counterparts. Also of course not forgetting that 'Viera' means 'of the wood'. Seems highly unlikely, however; unless people can't tell the difference between a 'cat' and a 'rabbit' in descriptions.

[Wolfyboy]

They'd have to do something otherwise yeah, it's going to be boring - but then again if they're going the gender locked route then it's already going to be a race that doesn't have two distinct sub-races as well as lacking their male counterparts.

Part of me wishes that Hrothgar is the subrace to Viera that simply doesn't live in the wood and thus has the smaller ears and mane-like hair, perhaps lives in mountain/snow climate - like an Arctic hare. Arctic hares are much smaller than normal hares having smaller limbs and smaller ears than their counterparts. Also of course not forgetting that 'Viera' means 'of the wood'. Seems highly unlikely, however; unless people can't tell the difference between a 'cat' and a 'rabbit' in descriptions.

That wouldn't make sense with the French leaks since it was separated by races and not by clans, so I wouldn't even say unlikely but a hard, "No."

[Gwenorai]

That wouldn't make sense with the French leaks since it was separated by races and not by clans, so I wouldn't even say unlikely but a hard, "No."

My line of thought is that they wouldn't call themselves Viera due to the actual meaning of what 'Viera' is. To them, someone not born of the wood or who leaves the wood is no longer considered a Viera. Makes you wonder what they actually call themselves after that - well if a large bulk of them broke away from that way of life to create a new 'clan'.

Honestly yeah, it's a hard no - would certainly make me cock a brow. Speculation is speculation.

[Seraphor]

Part of me wishes that Hrothgar is the subrace to Viera that simply doesn't live in the wood and thus has the smaller ears and mane-like hair, perhaps lives in mountain/snow climate - like an Arctic hare. Arctic hares are much smaller than normal hares having smaller limbs and smaller ears than their counterparts. Also of course not forgetting that 'Viera' means 'of the wood'. Seems highly unlikely, however; unless people can't tell the difference between a 'cat' and a 'rabbit' in descriptions.

To be honest, I'm leaning more towards this.

Two full races, not-genderlocked, sounds way too much to be plausible, and given the lore behind male Viera, I'm wondering if they're trying to preserve the mystery behind male Viera by not releasing them, but giving us a related race male-genderlocked, but similar enough to Viera that they are essentially our equivalent of male Viera.

[BillyKaplan]

Two full races, not-genderlocked, sounds way too much to be plausible, and given the lore behind male Viera, I'm wondering if they're trying to preserve the mystery behind male Viera by not releasing them, but giving us a related race male-genderlocked, but similar enough to Viera that they are essentially our equivalent of male Viera.

Sounds like them releasing Midlander ladies and Highlander guys as matches...

[Wolfyboy]

To be honest, I'm leaning more towards this.

Two full races, not-genderlocked, sounds way too much to be plausible, and given the lore behind male Viera, I'm wondering if they're trying to preserve the mystery behind male Viera by not releasing them, but giving us a related race male-genderlocked, but similar enough to Viera that they are essentially our equivalent of male Viera.

So based on the race being described as Ronso-like (Which people say look like Roe) and another leakers saying bara cats. Are people excited for big burly bara bunny men? I better get the art train running then! LOL

[NekoNova]

So based on the race being described as Ronso-like (Which people say look like Roe) and another leakers saying bara cats. Are people excited for big burly bara bunny men? I better get the art train running then! LOL

DADDY PLS!


I honestly would be totally okay with this

[Wolfyboy]

DADDY PLS!


I honestly would be totally okay with this

It would be an improved Roe so I'd probably would switch into it, and I still have my free fantasia on my main that I've been holding. If people want to speculate the about Hrothgar being the male Viera equivalent, then I hope they know they'll highly unlikely get a thin elegant looking male Viera. Heck, I can use some of the same arguments on this forums against that option by saying, "We already have a male based bunny race, it is called Hrothgar! We should get something different!".

[NekoNova]

It would be an improved Roe so I'd probably would switch into it, and I still have my free fantasia on my main that I've been holding. If people want to speculate the about Hrothgar being the male Viera equivalent, then I hope they know they'll highly unlikely get a thin elegant looking male Viera. Heck, I can use some of the same arguments on this forums against that option by saying, "We already have a male based bunny race, it is called Hrothgar! We should get something different!".

I understand your point, but I personally would love to see an actual male implementation of the Viera, and a femal implementation of the other tribe.
Gender-locking tribes is such a dated mechanic, it really has no place anymore in today's game market.
And frankly, I don't care whether Yoshi-P doesn't like the concept of a male Viera. We're the ones giving our money, and obviously the demand is there.

[Wolfyboy]

I understand your point, but I personally would love to see an actual male implementation of the Viera, and a femal implementation of the other tribe.
Gender-locking tribes is such a dated mechanic, it really has no place anymore in today's game market.
And frankly, I don't care whether Yoshi-P doesn't like the concept of a male Viera. We're the ones giving our money, and obviously the demand is there.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer Hrothgar be something else instead of this combination of what both groups wants where no one wins, so that way they can add male Viera later like how they should actually appear.

The race could still be elegant looking even if they're bigger. :v Not all big races have to look like ogres or something. I want a race that is ripped and dignified looking. Kind of like how the Viera females are sexy but still have this real fierce presence to them. Like they aren't to be messed with.

I just don't want another big comic relief race since SE pretty much uses male roes as joke characters exclusively.

The problem with Hrothgar is that their appearance has been described as Ronso-like and bara cats. If they did mistake male Viera/their equivalent with them then we'll most likely get Roe with bunny ears. The thing is, you shouldn't want Hrothgar (if they exist) to be male Viera or it'll make no one truly happy.