The problem isn’t the grind or the gating of the relic etc. Etc. Even though it’s more work than the previous ones imo and it’s a play style that is pretty divergent from what ff14 has been.

The real issue is that they plan on doing this AGAIN. Can we get numbers? I’m really curious to see how many people have accomplished which step of their relic and how this compares with relics of the past.

Also the relics were meant as an option for more casual players that didn’t necessarily savage raid. Ironically all the people I know who’ve made it past pagos are part of the more hardcore player base. What are we players missing that SE can see and that justifies doing this AGAIN in 5.0