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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Whm really need adjustment indeed, but he's far from being "shitty".
    No, it's legitimately shitty. It doesn't have a single unique ability in it's entire toolkit.
    Just let that sink in for a minute. Nothing a WHM brings to a raid can't be brought from another healer.
    Obviously with that in mind you would think it does what it does very well. No, it really doesn't. At best it can spam Cure III. Go ahead and ask a raider when was the last time they casted Cure III more than once at a time.

    It doesn't do the highest personal DPS.
    It brings no utility.
    It doesn't even heal for much more than other healers.
    It's the clunkiest healer to play.
    It's job mechanic, lilies, doesn't even benefit the job.

    I can go on too. If this isn't shitty I don't know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    No, it's legitimately shitty. It doesn't have a single unique ability in it's entire toolkit.
    Just let that sink in for a minute. Nothing a WHM brings to a raid can't be brought from another healer.
    Obviously with that in mind you would think it does what it does very well. No, it really doesn't. At best it can spam Cure III. Go ahead and ask a raider when was the last time they casted Cure III more than once at a time.

    It doesn't do the highest personal DPS.
    It brings no utility.
    It doesn't even heal for much more than other healers.
    It's the clunkiest healer to play.
    It's job mechanic, lilies, doesn't even benefit the job.

    I can go on too. If this isn't shitty I don't know what is.
    Don't forget...

    - The archaic design of being forced to stand in a small area for Asylum to actually benefit from it vs a one time hit for Collective which you can extend to 1.5x the amount of healing Asylum can do.

    - Planery is pretty much worthless since you're forced to use it within 10 seconds of procing a confession which can disappear if you do more than one because someone got topped from a crit! With the current design even without the use of Planery you'd mostly likely get topped anyways. There's not many fights where this isn't true.

    - Their whole design is based off of using GCD heals which you try to minimize in this game.

    - Presence of Mind is a 150s CD basically misaligning it from EVERY BUFF in the game.

    - Most of the time Assize isn't even worth being used on healing because of the amount of damage it does. It reaches almost 600 potency when used under synergized raid buffs.

    - Outside of prog Thin Air is pretty useless as you never reach the point of dipping low on MP.

    - Divine Benison is the only good skill they got in Stormblood that's useful in prog and farm.
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    Last edited by Jinzhu; 11-20-2018 at 06:37 PM.

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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    No, it's legitimately shitty. It doesn't have a single unique ability in it's entire toolkit.
    You have the right the be angry.
    But... don't deform reality.

    Devine Benison, Presence of Mind, Plenary indulgence, Assize, Thin Air are single unique ability.
    While some needs a great rework because, it's sounds like good on the paper (plenary), that's still unique.

    This isn't because WHM needs help that those skills suddenly vanished.
    And no, this is not an argument to say "whm's fine", but because you say he has nothing exclusive... well it still does.
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    Falala Arara
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    You have the right the be angry.
    But... don't deform reality.

    Devine Benison, Presence of Mind, Plenary indulgence, Assize, Thin Air are single unique ability.
    While some needs a great rework because, it's sounds like good on the paper (plenary), that's still unique.

    This isn't because WHM needs help that those skills suddenly vanished.
    And no, this is not an argument to say "whm's fine", but because you say he has nothing exclusive... well it still does.
    They may be unique abilities but I think the person you replied to was pointing out that whm doesn't really bring anything useful (<-- important keyword) that the other 2 healers can't. They can certainly bring big powerful heals but in content that doesn't need it it's kind of a waste. The other 2 healers can at least bring something that increases the overall rdps of the group which is what people generally prefer.

    Edit: If they do something that increases the synergy between whm and the other healers I could see it working out though. Example a Deploy POM.
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    Last edited by FalalaMaru; 11-21-2018 at 05:21 PM.