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    Improving my scholar dps

    I want to improve my dps on scholar. Viewing my logs I am deffiantly better then when I started.

    Alot of it was getting over my fear of not having a heal ready so Id hold onto ather stacks like a hoarder. Im kurbing my panic indoms when my co healer has it covered and my emergency tatic succors to lower overheal.

    Im energy draining and munching fairies but any tips to improve I can't seem to get my overall dps higher then on my recent logs and I seem to burst spike instead of hold a consistent. I would love some advice.
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    The first thing I notice right away is that you are using Selene? Is there a special reason you don't go with Eos?
    You are not using Rouse on a regular basis. Try to change that and click it on CD to make best use of it! (Apart for downtimes obv)

    Your DoT Uptime could be a bit better, mostly Miasma, try to have them on the Boss all the time. Furthermore you are sitting way too long on your Aetherflow stacks. :c Everytime you use one of them your CD on Aetherflow will be reduced! Make use of that! NEVER EVER SIT ON THEM! Use them for Energydrain if there is no healing needed. You are also missing on more Fairygauge and potential Fairytether by not using your stacks.

    Using Ruin II whenever you have to move or want to double weave (use 2 oGCDs) is no shame! In fact it is a DPS gain over double clipping into your Broil. That being said, using 1 oGCD before Broil is a gain over Ruin II! This is further maths tho, I would personally say it is fine to use Ruin II whenever you are unsure. Still better than wasting a GCD.
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 01-29-2019 at 05:23 PM.

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    Never try to GCD Clip if you want to use energy drain or a aetherflow ability use Ruin II or if you need refresh Bio II. Miasma II if you don’t have it on the boss and need to run and at the opener so it stacks with all the dmg increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    Never try to GCD Clip if you want to use energy drain or a aetherflow ability use Ruin II or if you need refresh Bio II.
    As I stated above it is actually only a potency/DPS gain when you double weave. A single oGCD clipping into your Broil II is still better than using Ruin II.
    Here are the quick maths about it:
    Ruin II (oGCD) + Broil II = 100p + 230p = 330p
    Broil II (oGCD) + Broil II = 230p + 230p - 77p = 383p
    The 77p are the actual clipping into your GCD, it's 230/3 = 77, bc you usually say you're loosing 1/3 of your next GCD potency by single clipping into it. (For quick maths that is, I'm by any means no theorycrafter.)



    But that this is a level of minmaxing that is really only important when you are trying to reach high percentiles! If you are only interested in 'casual' improvement it is fine to use Ruin II whenever you are unsure. ^^
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 01-29-2019 at 05:37 PM.
    I don't know, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    As I stated above it is actually only a potency/DPS gain when you double weave. A single oGCD clipping into your Broil II is still better than using Ruin II.
    Here are the quick maths about it:

    The 77p are the actual clipping into your GCD, it's 230/3 = 77, bc you usually say you're loosing 1/3 of your next GCD potency by single clipping into it. (For quick maths that is, I'm by any means no theorycrafter.)
    Yes but I talk ofc about double weaving ^^ if it wasn’t clear. Takes some time to get used but it is a dmg increase.
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    Thank you ill experiment with that tonight.

    As for eos or selene sorry if i sound stupid is it better to use eos and why. I learnt scholar back in the day wbere using eos was seen as shameful so im curious for the switch?

    Also is there any keyboard macro suggestions to tidy up hotbars. Any skills that could share a button slot? I suffer fibro so sometimes i get finger lock/cramp so anyway to stop me needing to spread over the number line is appriecated. I tried controller and respect to controller players I can't do it XD to much hotbar flipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogekigami View Post
    Thank you ill experiment with that tonight.

    As for eos or selene sorry if i sound stupid is it better to use eos and why. I learnt scholar back in the day wbere using eos was seen as shameful so im curious for the switch?

    Also is there any keyboard macro suggestions to tidy up hotbars. Any skills that could share a button slot? I suffer fibro so sometimes i get finger lock/cramp so anyway to stop me needing to spread over the number line is appriecated. I tried controller and respect to controller players I can't do it XD to much hotbar flipping.
    It’s hard for sch. To bind ability’s together.
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    I would actually recommend using Eos, because her healing is superior to Selenes'. Her Whispering Dawn is an incredibly strong HoT and Fey Covenant is a highly potent and long lasting magic shield for the whole group. Fey Illumination is useful for times of heavy healing for both healers since it buffs your whole party healing potency.
    The 'only' thing Selene has to offer is the speedbuff which is really nice for actual speedruns, but for more casual raiding I would consider it kinda meh tbh.

    So maybe try to get used to Eos. Whispering Dawn is a really really helptul tool to safe you and your Co-Heal a whole bunch of GCDs!

    When it comes to Macros I don't know a lot tbh, since I don't actively play SCH anymore. What I do tho is replacing the fairy skills depending on which fairy I summon. I don't have the macro at hand right now, but I can look it up later and send it to you.
    It basically means that instead of using 6 slots for all fairy skills you only need 3.
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    I don't know, man.

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    When im home tonight ill fiddle with my hotbars post a screenie for judgement. I do appreciate the guidence though.
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    To go more indepth with Eos versus Selene, Eos healing power usually means the two healers can afford to heal less which in turn leads to more GCDs dedicated to DPS abilities. In general, the flat potency gains from healer DPS tend to out weight the 3% haste the party gains via Fey Wind. If you're at a point where even Eos' healing capabilities are not needed to get through the content, then by all means, Selene away at that juncture for maximum rDPS contribution.

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    In terms of Ruin II versus GCD clipping, I'd like to also add that Miasma II is also a MP expensive option you can take advantage to reduce GCD clipping without using too much potency. Miasma II at full duration is 200 potency, which is 30 less than Broil II. So, to put that into perspective

    Miasma II + oGCD = 200 potency
    Ruin II + oGCD = 100 potency
    oGCD into Broil = (230 / 2.5)*1.5 = 138 potency [since you effectively clip 1s GCD, you lose 230/2.5 = 92 potency which then becomes 230 - 92 = 138 every 2.5s every time you clip your Broil II cast]

    Again, Miasma II is very MP intensive but may not be entirely the biggest concern as most of SCH's healing options rely on pet or oGCD abilities.

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    One fight specific tip I'd like to add is that Omega (O11S) first phase (everything up to level checker) is very LIGHT on healing requirements. If everyone plays it properly, you only need to deal with one Atomic Ray, two Mustard bombs, and auto attacks - and if you're tank swapping you can pretty much spend large tank CDs / Invulns to eat both Mustard Bombs with little issue. I pretty much use Selene full time for this part of the fight and pop Dissipation during Level Checker to (1) transition into Eos for post-Level Checker and (2) get more Energy Drains out for more DPS. You should be aiming to get three Fey Winds out prior to Dissipation.

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    Here are the macros I use for pet swapping:

    /ac Summon II
    /hotbar pet Silent Dusk 4 7
    /hotbar pet Fey Caress 4 8
    /hotbar pet Fey Wind 4 9
    /macroicon Summon II
    /ac Summon
    /hotbar pet Whispering Dawn 4 7
    /hotbar pet Fey Covenant 4 8
    /hotbar pet Fey Illumination 4 9
    /macroicon Summon
    Essentially when you summon your pet, it'll replace slots 7, 8, and 9 on hot bar 4 with the related first, second, and third pet skill.

    In the /hotbar macro, the first number presents the hotbar, the second number represents the slot in that hotbar.

    So, 4 7 means the 7th slot on the 4th hot bar. 1 3 would mean the 3rd slot in the 1st hotbar.

    Adjust as needed to suit your play style.

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    Hope you found this post useful and good luck in chasing the DPS ranking~
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