Sexual harassment

[Doozer]

We're taking umbridge with some of your positions.

Yeah, like how I condone genocide or some shit because I said some opinions shouldn't be allowed.

[MoroMurasaki]

I like that everyone has decided to argue against everything I say, but it's distracting from the topic at hand. Sexual harassment in-game needs to be addressed. It's not about believing accusations, it's about action being taken when proof is there and also teaching people not to sexually harass others in the first place.

There are very few people in this thread that have argued against the idea of appropriate action being taken against players who sexually harrass others. The issue people bring up with the TMP case is the lack of anything SE would consider evidence as, to my knowledge, there is little to no ingame chat logs supporting the victims. If these women want to go to the police with their grievances that's another matter entirely but as they stand right now I don't feel like SE has what they need to enact any sort of punishment without stepping outside their own guidelines.

To be very clear, since apparently not immediately blindly agreeing with anyone who accuses someone of sexual hareassment has connotations beyond desiring evidence, I don't feel like sexual harrassment is okay. It was a contributing factor for me in my decision to leave ESO because at the time I played they only had voice chat so there really wasn't an option to hide my gender. I think those who sexually harrass others are generally just crappy people... but I still can't get behind the idea that it is okay to blindly believe anyone who cries wolf.

Yeah, like how I condone genocide or some shit because I said some opinions shouldn't be allowed.

I didn't suggest you condoned genocide, at the risk of bringing up posts that appear to have been deleted I suggested that you conflated the issues that arise from allowing opinions such as "question everything, don't automatically believe anyone who claims to be the victim of abuse" with those that could be seen in response to talk of genocide being acceptable.

Saying "don't automatically believe everyone who makes an abuse allegation" leads to due process and the gathering of evidence before potentially ruining someone's life. Saying "genocide is okay" can lead to... genocide. The consequences there are not even comperable which is why your defense of "silence this opinion I don't like because some other opinions can be really harmful" doesn't fly.