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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Sexual harassment

    After reading an article in PC gamer about sexual harassment in THIS GAME, I began thinking about my own experiences in game. I am a male and play as a male, I pretty much keep to myself despite being a fc leader and yet I too have had characters try pushing sex on me randomly... not flirting, not romance... just explicit sexual interaction.... I was wondering how many other people get harassed sexually in this game... and what can be done to reduce unwanted sexual advances
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    Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

    Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

    Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.
    Uh, no, this was from a Community Leader.

    Google "Prominent Final Fantasy 14 community leader accused of blackmail and sexual harassment by over a dozen women"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Uh, no, this was from a Community Leader.

    Google "Prominent Final Fantasy 14 community leader accused of blackmail and sexual harassment by over a dozen women"
    Read, laughed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Read, laughed.
    Then you are part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

    Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.
    Despite I also grew a thick skin (or basically using common sense) towards people that do not even know me I think your response is somewhat irritating.
    Just because you live in a ghetto where bikes getting stolen everyday it does not make every single theft less worse.
    Instead of going "spoiled snowflake" (what does that even have to do with that) you could've worded it differently, sounding like you're one of those spitting poison occassionally and think that's funny because "itz just da internetz".
    It's not. And I hope the law for the cyberspace will be set higher soon.

    Just in real life, I would not want to be called or shown disgusting, disturbing or annoying things every chat I enter a virtual public place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake.
    You realise people have ulterior motives and it's especially hidden well on the internet.
    There are desperate, sad people on the internet and things can go south, fast.
    It doesn't usually stop just from looking at someone's cat girl.
    Some crazed pervert can get so indulged in you and then become
    a stalker and it gets worse. Friends and families are involved, hacking, threats or anything.
    Your response is really just...wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    You realise people have ulterior motives and it's especially hidden well on the internet.
    There are desperate, sad people on the internet and things can go south, fast.
    It doesn't usually stop just from looking at someone's cat girl.
    Some crazed pervert can get so indulged in you and then become
    a stalker and it gets worse. Friends and families are involved, hacking, threats or anything.
    Your response is really just...wow.
    It's really hilarious to me when people think it's that easy to walk away from it. Like, I had a guy harassing me in WoW, and I finally told him off and ignored him, and whenever I logged in on my alts on another server, he would have his friends harass me too. I ended up having to leave that server. Even if you cut out the harasser/abuser they can still negatively effect your life. And in cases like mine GMs aren't always that helpful. They didn't have chat logs of this guy telling his friends to harass me, because those conversations were outside of the game.

    Another situation I ran into was with a guy I was very close friends with and was an integral part of our friend circle. It was just a normal friendship at first until he started getting really creepy and stalkery and abusive. And when I did things like remove him from my friends list and change my name he would just get that information from others. I was scared to speak out against it or anything like that unless I risk losing my other friends. Plus, this guy knew things about my real life, because I had known him for a long time and I really trusted him. So I was also scared that he'd lash out at me IRL because, let's be honest, in the digital age it's not hard at all to find somebody, and he had a rough idea of where I lived and my name which was probably all he would have needed. I was lucky enough that those friends chose to side with me (well, most of them) but not everyone is that lucky. :/

    And even when you DO blacklist or ignore people it doesn't stop them from harassing you. Constantly making alts, or even just following you around in character, since blacklisting a person doesn't hide their character from you. And specific to this game, it won't stop people from entering your house.

    So, is protecting yourself and taking care of yourself important? Yeah. Maybe don't walk down that alley where five people were murdered alone at night with nothing to defend yourself. But even if you did and something happened, it doesn't make it your fault.
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    Last edited by Elamys; 06-27-2018 at 07:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    It's really hilarious to me when people think it's that easy to walk away from it. Like, I had a guy harassing me in WoW, and I finally told him off and ignored him, and whenever I logged in on my alts on another server, he would have his friends harass me too.
    See? Everyone knows the "Girls don't exist online!" Joke?
    There's a good damn reason for it. I hide it too, hell, a lot of us girls do...
    There's not to say the male's don't get bugged too such as OP, but females on the internet?
    You all think we are a rare breed? We're God dang hiding for our lives from nasty perverts who won't leave us alone.
    I've personally not be into no extreme case but the moment people know my gender that's it for me.
    If they start asking too many things, too soon and randomly showing me or telling their sob stories, I know to run.
    I rarely ever mention it, and only now to prove a point. Some people aren't lucky enough and they're in too deep../

    People laughing at this makes me sick. I actually reported DDkiki for his response already.
    Sexual Harassment ain't funny, in no form at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake.
    Coming from someone who HATES sjws and PC culture, I detest comments like this. This is not directed to you personally, but you're trivializing what could amount to a major issue. I have a friend who once "dated" a guy through the game. They joined the FC and discord together, so they became a became part of our circle of friends. Eventually, she broke up with him and he got kicked out, stating that he started acting weird around her. I didn't know the full details at the time, so when he started talking to me out of the blue, I didn't think much of it. I was also somewhat forgiving and didn't want the guy to feel alone. Then I learned that he had been stalking her in-game, contacted her phone to the point she replaced her number and he tried reaching out to her on her social media. The dude got obsessed, after just a couple weeks of interaction. At that point, I cut him off too, especially after he told me "We're friends and friends always look out for each other " Even a year later, after she was in a new relationship, he STILL tried to message her one day. It was also likely he knew where she lived, so it became a matter of safety.

    It's so easy to say "just block and blacklist them. Problem solved." It's a totally different ball game when someone actively waits to see if you'll show up online. Being told that "your character is pretty," is NOT harassment. Being actively pursued by someone, after it was made it clear you want nothing to do with them, is.
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    Last edited by REPROBEAN_CHILD; 06-28-2018 at 05:00 AM.

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