Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[BillyKaplan]

Do YOU think SE would pick that avenue? Are you under the impression it would be a quick thing to implement, quick in development terms of course?

Of course not, but long term I believe it'd be more beneficial to the game than any Perform revamps they dished out this patch that could harmlessly have come out later.

Right now the only people complaining are the "this used to be leveling checkbox" crowd.

I don't see anyone complaining so much as just not running it. Be it that I'll eventually have to run my alts through it, however, this does in fact concern me regardless.

I think your solution is unlikely and overly involved for such outdated content.

Content all charas have to go through unless they line SE's pockets by buying the story potion. If they were suddenly tweaking Coils, I'd have agreed with you, but they're not.

[Krotoan]

Of course not, but long term I believe it'd be more beneficial to the game than any Perform revamps they dished out this patch that could harmlessly have come out later.

I don't particularly LIKE the perform thing. In fact it's possibly the most personally annoying thing they've implemented in my opinion. I was super happy when they implemented an option to turn it off. But People do like it and use it. You'd be telling people their particular content was less important.

I don't see anyone complaining so much as just not running it. Be it that I'll eventually have to run my alts through it, however, this does in fact concern me regardless.

You don't consider the tens of posts in this very thread saying it's stupid and saying they won't run it complaining? Odd, I do. And when you run your alts through it I personally promise if my sub is still valid to collect 5 of my friends to rush you through it unsynched if you cannot find a PF to do the same. I truly don't think it will be an issue for people who want to rush through it to find people who'll do it.

Content all charas have to go through unless they line SE's pockets by buying the story potion. If they were suddenly tweaking Coils, I'd have agreed with you, but they're not.

I'm never going to convince someone who thinks SE makes every decision in the direction of the cash shop that this was made in the majority of the people experiencing the problems best interest (while of course saving money and encouraging those new players to continue spending money). You have your opinions of SE and I have mine. I'm not arguing the "cash shop is king" line because I think that's idiotic. There are many ways for a company to make money and most of them are very good at making it much less obvious. But if you think that was the driving force behind this decision, my experience trying to convince others that this was likely not the case tells me to just stop.

[BillyKaplan]

I don't particularly LIKE the perform thing. In fact it's possibly the most personally annoying thing they've implemented in my opinion. I was super happy when they implemented an option to turn it off. But People do like it and use it. You'd be telling people their particular content was less important.

From the game's perspective, it factually is.

And when you run your alts through it I personally promise if my sub is still valid to collect 5 of my friends to rush you through it unsynched if you cannot find a PF to do the same.

If I run it unsynced I'll power my alt to 60 in POTD and unsync it myself, that's not the problem. I'll still have to sit through the same cutscenes I don't care about. I just ran it unsynced on a level 70 and I still had to watch the gosh darned cutscenes. They should have at least limited it to there being a first timer in the instance. There isn't? You won, it's going to be a fast roulette. There is? You knew what you were queueing for to begin with so it's all good.

I'm never going to convince someone who thinks SE makes every decision in the direction of the cash shop

You told me I didn't know what you were thinking, so I'll throw that right back at you. I don't think they did it for money, though I can see a lot of people going there to avoid this on alts. I think they picked the path of least resistance without actually checking what resistances would arise as a result.

An aside, it only says the cutscenes will not be skipable on the roulette info page in the duty finder. It says no such thing on the separate duties' pages though it really honestly should.

[Krotoan]

From the game's perspective, it factually is.

from that point of view, yes. From the perspective that all aspects of a game that people enjoy are equally important. No. But then again.. it is perspective.

If I run it unsynced I'll power my alt to 60 in POTD and unsync it myself, that's not the problem. I'll still have to sit through the same cutscenes I don't care about. I just ran it unsynced on a level 70 and I still had to watch the gosh darned cutscenes. They should have at least limited it to there being a first timer in the instance. There isn't? You won, it's going to be a fast roulette. There is? You knew what you were queueing for to begin with so it's all good.

THAT is a problem, I was under the impression since the description WASN'T there in the dutys entry that outside of the roulette it functioned as it always had. That needs to change. Also, this other solution you've proposed ALSO fixes the majority of the problem, perhaps that couldn't be done for the same reason the duty seems to HAVE to have the same restriction. It's a flag that cannot be flipflopped. Just ON or OFF as long as the duty is there. Either way yes, that needs to change for people who want to rerun or speedrun but do not want a 40 minute investment.

You told me I didn't know what you were thinking, so I'll throw that right back at you. I don't think they did it for money, though I can see a lot of people going there to avoid this on alts. I think they picked the path of least resistance without actually checking what resistances would arise as a result.

OK, fair enough that was a large assumption. Personally I cannot see people dropping 18-25 dollars just to skip 2 hours total. That's a lot of money for a minor problem. More than a months sub with extra retainers. Mentioning the pots as an alternative seems ludicrous.
With the addition of that last information about the duties even unsynched having to watch cutscenes at a set pace, I'll say this seems poorly implemented or at least incompletely.

[BillyKaplan]

With the addition of that last information about the duties even unsynched having to watch cutscenes at a set pace, I'll say this seems poorly implemented or at least incompletely.

That's my beef with it. Like everyone here agrees, don't like it, don't run the roulette, and I certainly don't intend to (which has room for debate about how smart a decision that was given roulettes are there to supplement queues, but we'll only know how well that goes with time, it's too soon to judge now). I can get my levels and poetics elsewhere. But this affects more than the roulette goers. I can run it unsynced on a max level chara and still be stuck with the same grueling experience, regardless of how much I care for the scenes or how fast I read it despite being the only person in the instance. That fact becomes all the more horrible when you acknowledge that most scenes have to tell you where to go because of how un-intuitive those dungeons are - even if I wanted to enjoy the story scenes, I'm still stuck with minutes on minutes of that despite knowing full well where to go. And as this is MSQ content, anyone who doesn't buy the story potion is affected. That's the true issue here and why so many people joke about it being a ploy to get story-jump sales up.