Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[boomsterloy2]

In my opinion, its not as torturous as everyone makes it out to be. Sure it takes more time than most are used to, but I've had a blast talking to the party during cutscenes, its nice being able to talk to them, more than sry, thx, gg, etc. It was a welcome change of pace.

[seraf]

In my opinion, its not as torturous as everyone makes it out to be. Sure it takes more time than most are used to, but I've had a blast talking to the party during cutscenes, its nice being able to talk to them, more than sry, thx, gg, etc. It was a welcome change of pace.

This is what I noticed as well when I ran MSQ Rou on launch day this week. The exp was pretty decent if you're still in the process of leveling and honestly the dungeon is still really easy to do and the cutscenes just give you time to rest a bit between pulls. It's basically Prae and chill. lol

[Vstarstruck]

This is what I noticed as well when I ran MSQ Rou on launch day this week. The exp was pretty decent if you're still in the process of leveling and honestly the dungeon is still really easy to do and the cutscenes just give you time torest a bit between pulls. It's basically Prae and chill. lol

Some people care about efficiency because they have other things to do. For those people, they will not touch the MSQ roulette. You have to understand having most jobs at max level or even all of them is really common sight this point, so how do you give intensives for those people leveling their last final few jobs? All they are going to do is beastribe for 10 mins a day or whatever then go about doing other things since to people like that, well.. there is a reason they are on their last few jobs right? (meaning it is very unlikely those people care about rush leveling those final jobs. They will just do something time efficient day to day for some exp so they can spend most of their time on what is important to them)

If you want experienced people to queue up for things to push down queue times, you need to make it WORTH DOING. If you don't, queue times will just get longer and longer, making it harder for new players to clear it. What happened to "just run unsync with 1 or 2 level 70 friends and enjoy the story that way? Why did SE have to ruin the roulettle?

Saying it "doesn't matter" is simply not living in the real world.

[Krotoan]

Some people care about efficiency because they have other things to do. For those people, they will not touch the MSQ roulette.

Yeah, and those people were ruining the experience for the new people trying to see the story.

A lot of people posting in this thread are saying how it's not worth your time anymore. If you HAD to skip all the cutscenes before , you were part of the problem that SE is trying to fix. Now with cross server queuing, they're probably seeing if only the people who are willing to put in the extra time will be enough.

If not the system will probably revert, especially if new people start complaining about the MSQ queue. I don't think i've seen that yet, but it's super early to be judging that metric.

There are plenty of other roulettes available for the XP-per-minute crew.

[CheeseHound]

I cannot spend an hour in a single roulette. As someone with limited hours of play a night, some days that I cannot play at all, this really kills my ability to get poetics for old content [ anima, secondary class gear, so on ] any faster than the current tier tomestones- which I have to spend my limited time getting ALSO.

As someone mentioned barely 15 minutes of a Praetorium is actually spent physically playing the game. Being made to watch non-interactive scenes I've already seen and can go readily watch in the inn at my own leisure whenever I want seems like a large waste of my small bit of time. So there's one less tank/healer that is going to be able to pull new people through MSQ.

Just my perspective.

[Vstarstruck]

Yeah, and those people were ruining the experience for the new people trying to see the story.

No they where not, and I guess having no queue or 30 minute queue is better then 5 Minutes. From my experiences (someone that tries to speak up when there is any kind of drama) tends to get things sorted, because of this, I feel people overblow the situation because they do not know how to communicate, or kicking people that are causing trouble (pulling way too fast, being rude at elevators, etc) I seen "toxicity" on the reverse end too, a friend or two trying to hold the run hostage (a lot of times this is done with a friend being max level) where they could of just unsync it and not cause problems for 6 other people.

With your tone, I wouldn't be shocked if you where part of that group. I did not cause problems for people, do not dare say such things to me. This is you making a post where your sig quote fits you well, is that why you do not understand the saying? Maybe you run into people telling you a lot for a reason.

With your last line I addressed that, I did not know we where talking about the individual looking for the best exp. We were talking about making the roulette appealing to experienced players so new players were not waiting a long time in queue.

I cannot spend an hour in a single roulette. As someone with limited hours of play a night, some days that I cannot play at all, this really kills my ability to get poetics for old content ....

....whenever I want seems like a large waste of my small bit of time. So there's one less tank/healer that is going to be able to pull new people through MSQ.

Just my perspective.

I am sure that is insanely common

Do you watch a movie, the same movie 1-3 times a day for a month? 2 months? even a movie you love a lot, doing that will make you hate at some point, the breaking point of that is different from person to person but it does not change a breaking point does exist. Queue times will skyrocket after a point when people are done "testing it" because it is simply boring to do the same thing over and over and over again , reading the same text/story cuz you know what happens.

You cannot blame people for skipping the CS.

Perhaps, then, it's simply not going to be Lv70 players doing the majority of 'helping' here. It'll be people who do still have jobs to level from 50 to 70. They help the newcomers through, the ex-newcomers join the ranks of helpers (if they want to), and it just continues like that for so long as there are new players (or alt characters) working through the MSQ.

used to, not anymore, very unlikely.

Do people actually check the rewards ?
MSQ roulette gives 200.
Meridianum gives 120.
Praetorium gives 200.

New player bonus is on top of those.

implying max level players care about poetics in the first place, and if they do they run ARF or something.

[BillyKaplan]

the problem that SE is trying to fix

Let's revisit this statement, shall we? The problem in this case is "New players are in the roulette and want to see cutscenes and enjoy the duty as it was intended".
But sadly, that's a very specific case. More often than not you'll likely find no new players in that duty, new players who don't care about cutscenes, or new alts who have seen the cutscenes dozens of times before and couldn't care less.
It doesn't even matter how well this solution solves or doesn't solve the problem SE set out to 'fix' - it actually ignores the majority of scenarios and therefore is severely lacking.

[Raiya]

What makes this silly though is that your forced to watch Cutscenes WHEN NOONE IS NEW TO THIS.

Realistically forcing people to watch cutscenes is the most stupid and lazy decision made for this. Whats worse is that its not actually that hard to rework this to eliminate the tedium.

1) Just made most of castrum an instance and change livia into a trial fight. Castrum easily fixed.
2) Make most of praetorium an instance and just make the ultima fight also a trial. Praetorium fixed.

The real issue here is that people arent gonna run this in the long term and it will end up in the same state as the alliance raids were prior to the introduction of the alliance raid finder. Its just sheer lazy patching to do so and introduces more problems than it solves.

[Coratanni]

What makes this silly though is that your forced to watch Cutscenes WHEN NOONE IS NEW TO THIS.

Do you honestly believe this? There are no new players joining this game everyday?

Wow.

[Avatre]

Do you honestly believe this? There are no new players joining this game everyday?

Wow.

Pretty sure they meant when there is no bonus for someone being new to the duty, thus nobody new to it in that run.