Is it time for relics to be the same ilevel as savage weapons?

[Sylvina]

... yes, you can. I pulled a three pack of mobs on Samurai with Hyomin and she barely needed to heal me. Likewise, due to how woefully undergeared the tank was, I ripped hate constantly and essentially tanked all three bosses; on a DPS. Going one better, if you don't collect the gold Yojimbo drops, he does a measly 15k aoe and nothing else. I want to play the version of FFXIV you have because mine has laughably easy dungeons I barely pay attention in unless I'm doing mega pulls. Those can be fun.

Nothing you said implies you could simply roll your face on the keyboard to not die while you pulled. Stop hugely exaggerating when you think something is too easy and instead say something like "This isn't challenging enough for me, can I please get a hard mode for this where mobs hit like trucks on nitrous instead of just trucks"

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Nothing you said implies you could simply roll your face on the keyboard to not die while you pulled. Stop hugely exaggerating when you think something is too easy and instead say something like "This isn't challenging enough for me, can I please get a hard mode for this where mobs hit like trucks on nitrous instead of just trucks"

It isn't an exaggeration. If a DPS can tank bosses and even a single trash pack, in what universe isn't that faceroll easy? It literally demonstrates how incredibly easy the content is, which is why tanks do room to room pulls almost unanimously. You won't need a cooldown otherwise. That isn't me thinking the game is too easy but the game proving it.

[Sylvina]

It isn't an exaggeration. If a DPS can tank bosses and even a single trash pack, in what universe isn't that faceroll easy? It literally demonstrates how incredibly easy the content is, which is why tanks do room to room pulls almost unanimously. You won't need a cooldown otherwise. That isn't me thinking the game is too easy but the game proving it.

and its people like you who I'd insta block and never want to meet in game. if one thing gets my goat its people who insist the game is too easy and keep demanding it be made harder for everyone. Games far harder than a lot of other MMOs according to a lot of people in this thread even, and you wont admit that the game isn't as easy as you continue to insist it is.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

and its people like you who I'd insta block and never want to meet in game. if one thing gets my goat its people who insist the game is too easy and keep demanding it be made harder for everyone. Games far harder than a lot of other MMOs according to a lot of people in this thread even, and you wont admit that the game isn't as easy as you continue to insist it is.

And yet instead of refuting my actual arguments, you instantly resort to threats of blocking. I suppose I should expect little else from someone who still called BS on how low dedicated healing was required for dungeons despite logs and video evidence proving otherwise. So please, do explain to us all how a DPS being able to tank bosses, healers only needing to heal 15-20% and tanks only requiring cooldowns on mass pulls isn't faceroll. Only you have been insisted FFXIV is far harder than it actually is; so opposed to the mere idea people disagree, you attack the slightest bit of criticism towards difficulty.

[Sebazy]

Games far harder than a lot of other MMOs according to a lot of people in this thread even, and you wont admit that the game isn't as easy as you continue to insist it is.

Is it really though? I'll hold my hands up and admit I've had a few wipes here and there on large trash pulls, some were my fault, some were someone elses. However, the only time I've ever wiped to a roulette Dungeon Boss outside of Pharos Sirius and Amdapor Keep circa 2.0-2.1 would be on Baelsar's Wall, usually due to the rest of the group ignoring the collar on me (My only post in the bad duty finder experiences here was of a monk ignoring nails+collar, then blaming me for us wiping when I was dead 'because I wasn't healing' for example).

Probably my most defining memory of how trivial most dungeon bosses are would be in Gubal HM, I DC'd fairly late on Strix, came back right as the group wiped due to no heals and proceeded to solo the last 20% or so myself.

Compared to the horrifying trains, wall agro and nightmare corpse recoveries I saw in MMOs of old such as Everquest and FFXI or even WoW in it's 'everything has to be CC'd or your tank goes splat phase'. Then yes, FFXIV's dungeons are a comparative cake walk. It wasn't always that way, Brayflox and Tam-tara in beta/prerelease and Amdapor Keep in early 2.0 plus pre nerf Pharos Sirius were actually pretty challenging. It's very well documented that SE lost their nerve over the backlash regarding Pharos Sirius.

Have you done much O3S yet? That's a pretty significant step up from O1S-O2S and I suspect it might be a bit of an eye opener for you assuming you didn't raid in ARR/HW.