Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
Very real situation. Recently recruiting for replacement tank in my static. One guy I talked to vehemently expressed his disgust with the attitude of PF groups. Doing my due diligence to check his logs, I literally find he has the worst of the worst. Come to find out he plays on ps4, he had no idea that his damage was so low. I wanted to give him a shot because he seemed very interested in learning how to be better. After working with him one night, we increased his dps by almost 1000. He still needs a bit more improvement, but how would he have ever known how "bad" he was. What PF is gonna take the time to work with him to get better? None. While I can't say for certain, I'd be willing to bet a lot the cancer he ran in to in PF got a hell of lot worse when they saw his numbers lol

For reasons like this I'd support a personal in-game parser. It doesn't have show other people's dps, only your own. There's really no other way to get better in this game then by comparing damage. Half the "hardcore" raiding community would be shite without 3rd party plugins calling out mechanics for them, without being able to see their damage numbers compared to everyone else, without fflogs breaking down every single aspect of the fight for them. So let PS4 players be able to see their own damage, it's not asking a lot.
I <3 this reply. While I don't think stubborn people who knowingly join parties out of their league should get carried, they are probably the minority of the low DPS players who get slandered. I stated in a previous reply how much better it would be if people would take the time to identify why a party member is under-performing and let them know. Nicely. You don't have to keep these players in your party but at least dismiss them with friendly advice.

whiskeybravo, your post reminds me of a strong player I used to know. He spent a lot of time forming parties with people who were new to the end game with the express purpose of teaching them how to improve. His mentality was that if more players had someone to help get them up to speed, more parties would be raiding successfully and it would be easier to find good groups.

Some of the pro-parser people I have seen in this thread really do sound mean and cut-throat. Does taking a bit of time to thank an underperforming player for trying and typing a few pointers out before kicking them from your hardcore party really cut into your gaming time so much? If you do it right, that player might learn something and you might gain a valuable party member for later runs.