Built-in Parsers

[akaneakki]

For those who don't want parser. I can understand (from your point of view) that you are afraid getting harrased.
Let me ask you this, you go in a group you find out you got enrage because you are 20% dps lower than the second or even third dps. What is your view on this? Keep going tillit's dead even tho you know it's a dead end? Then my second question is, you end up finding out the dps in your group is 20% lower than you on dps and you get enrage, what would you do? Then the last one is, if a group has amazing dps and can cover for yours, do you feel its okay for them to do it for you, them pulling the gameplay by 85% or more? Or is it unfair for them? Now, imagine they played at your level, would that be fun for you? Or selfish behalf of the 7 others?

[SDaemon]

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Depends. Is that 20% lower still within the required DPS to clear? If so then the issue clearly isn't with the party's DPS and they are failing mechanics. However, a group will likely just kick that 20% less DPS in favor of trying to push out more DPS in hopes of winning. As players are able to push out greater numbers they will gradually expect the overall community to do the same regardless whether or not the content requires it.

If that 20% less DPS puts them below the threshold of what each DPS needs to do in order to clear the encounter then yes, that person should be replaced or guided in a way to help them improve.

If in a group someone is doing amazing DPS and they are below then it again depends. Are they doing well? Are their numbers enough that in the scope of the fight they are doing their fair share or more? Just because someone is doing 5k+ DPS and they are only doing 3k+ DPS doesn't mean they should be shamed or made felt like they are being carried, not if the fight only requires a personal DPS of ~2k. (The numbers are figurative, the situation is my driving point.)

[akaneakki]

Just because someone is doing 5k+ DPS and they are only doing 3k+ DPS doesn't mean they should be shamed or made felt like they are being carried, not if the fight only requires a personal DPS of ~2k. (The numbers are figurative, the situation is my driving point.)

That's true. I dont think or ever should let people have the shame on them for doing 3k vs 5k. I mean if a fight reuqires dps to be around 4.8k each and one is doing about 3k, this is counted without great tank and healer dps, the person is lacking the damage it's an issue. However, i feel many people needs to be guided for damage and ofc like someone said already, even if a parser do happens, doesn't mean that a person will actually use it correct and then get better at dpsing. They must be first willing to try get better, which I think many don't do at all, in my honest opinion. But I do think if they do see how ''low'' or ''bad'' they do, they might be feeling shame and try to get better. In worse scenario they might feel so bad and not be encouraged to try anymore.