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  1. #591
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friends...
    ♪ Some people started posting it, not knowing what it was,
    ♪ And they'll continue posting it forever just because...
    (6)

  2. #592
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    magnanimousCynic's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Wynne Yilmaz
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    ♪ Some people started posting it, not knowing what it was,
    ♪ And they'll continue posting it forever just because...
    While I won't name them, I put the likely origin on a poster who made threads around a year ago about not only wanting Cleric Stance disabled in instanced content, but also a Healer with zero DPS abilities. They even suggested that such a healer would either get to skip MSQ battles or just heal an NPC that would do the damage for them.

    Anyone who frequented the Healer Roles forums around a year ago probably knows who I'm talking about.
    (3)
    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 09-12-2017 at 01:27 PM.
    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

  3. #593
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    Astral145's Avatar
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    Astral Flame
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Dear tanks please pull every group of mobs from start of fight to first boss in fact just pull all the trash mobs into the boss arena so we can just fight it all at once. That way we can clear the dungeon faster. Also, don't worry about defensive cool downs as they are just there to look pretty on your bar.

    Dear DPS please stop using AOE skills as that is a DPS loss with 4+ trash mobs. Also, please don't bother using group buffs or having group supporting skills like goad because group buffs and support skills is a dps loss.

    Dear healers please don't dps because your damage is abysmal and it doesn't support your group at all. As a matter of fact if you don't dps you will end up healing more often due to the mobs still whacking away at the tank. So please only heal because that is what healers do best.

    Love it or hate it...
    (3)
    Last edited by Astral145; 09-12-2017 at 02:28 PM.

  4. #594
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Astral145 View Post
    Dear tanks please pull every group of mobs from start of fight to first boss in fact just pull all the trash mobs into the boss arena so we can just fight it all at once. That way we can clear the dungeon faster. Also, don't worry about defensive cool downs as they are just there to look pretty on your bar.

    Dear DPS please stop using AOE skills as that is a DPS loss with 4+ trash mobs. Also, please don't bother using group buffs or having group supporting skills like goad because group buffs and support skills is a dps loss.

    Dear healers please don't dps because your damage is abysmal and it doesn't support your group at all. As a matter of fact if you don't dps you will end up healing more often due to the mobs still whacking away at the tank. So please only heal because that is what healers do best.

    Love it or hate it...
    This is exactly what i was talking about..
    (1)

  5. #595
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    Astral Flame
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    This is exactly what i was talking about..
    Of course I was totally joking around but you are exactly right... its a never ending rant xD
    (1)

    Were numbers invented or discovered? How many Moogles does it take to make Kuponut rum? Answer: zero... They will give you a quest to make it.

  6. #596
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Astral145 View Post
    Of course I was totally joking around but you are exactly right... its a never ending rant xD
    I'm so embarrassed ;-;
    (0)

  7. #597
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    StragoMagus's Avatar
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    Strago Magus
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    (5)
    Last edited by StragoMagus; 09-16-2017 at 12:25 PM.

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  9. #598
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by StragoMagus View Post
    I really wish people would stop taking the conjurer story out of context to enforce their belief.
    (1)

  10. #599
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    Lucke's Avatar
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    I really wish people would stop taking the conjurer story out of context to enforce their belief.
    That goes both ways. Pro-DPS healers enforce their belief that if healers don't DPS, they suck, and anti-DPS healers that just wanna focus on healing say those that do DPS suck for risking a tunnel-vision scenario and causing a wipe. As long as nobody dies, WGAF? If you wanna DPS as a healer, cool beans. If you wanna focus on healing, cool beans. Don't force your way onto others, both pro and anti DPS. (Just saying generally, not calling anyone specifically out.)
    (4)

  11. #600
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    That goes both ways. Pro-DPS healers enforce their belief that if healers don't DPS, they suck, and anti-DPS healers that just wanna focus on healing say those that do DPS suck for risking a tunnel-vision scenario and causing a wipe. As long as nobody dies, WGAF? If you wanna DPS as a healer, cool beans. If you wanna focus on healing, cool beans. Don't force your way onto others, both pro and anti DPS. (Just saying generally, not calling anyone specifically out.)
    The difference is, being open to using all your abilities when they're the most useful choice in a particular situation simply is the vastly superior and thus the correct way of playing the healer jobs (and, in fact, every single job in this game!), and there's no reasonable argument whatsoever for straight out refusing to use a part of your tool kit (it always comes down to either a significant lack of skill or "personal preference" - aka probably the previous one disguised as a "playstyle choice"). (And, as it probably has to be noted once again: straight out refusing to do something out of principle is a different thing from not being able to do something in a particular situation because of actual reasons such as lack of experience or MP or having a really bad party.)

    No job gets to choose which one of their abilities they're using and which they aren't. All jobs are expected to use what is the most useful in each particular situation. Healers aren't an exception to this, and there is no reasonable argument for why they should be.
    (10)
    Last edited by Taika; 09-16-2017 at 07:10 PM.

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